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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 1279080, member: 23910"] Absolutely it's unfair to Player Z, which is why there are rules against it and both players X and Y should be given a penalty. Unfortunately though, once those players have chosen to break the rule there's really nothing that can undo it. Killing their hands so that Player Z automatically wins the pot might be a fairer way of handling the situation from [I]his[/I] point of view, but then there's a table (and potentially room) full of other players who might be adversely affected by his staying in who didn't do anything wrong either. Which means, I think, that this is just one of those gross situations where someone will always be hard done by. I'd have ruled that a call where they'd be committed to putting in the $50. Robert's Rules backs that one up: [INDENT][I]13. A player who bets or calls by releasing chips into the pot is bound by that action and must make the amount of the wager correct. (This also applies right before the showdown when putting chips into the pot causes the opponent to show the winning hand before the full amount needed to call has been put into the pot.) However, if you are unaware that the pot has been raised, you may withdraw that money and reconsider your action, provided that no one else has acted after you. At pot-limit or no-limit betting, if there is a gross misunderstanding concerning the amount of the wager, see Section 14, Rule 8.[/I] [/INDENT] I find a couple of other things about that hand interesting though: 1 - The dealer should have been announcing the action as it happens. When you made your bet, the dealer should've told the button [I]"$50 to call"[/I] or something to that effect. So unless the button is deaf, they shouldn't have been surprised that the bet was $50 and it shouldn't have mattered if it was made with two green chips or ten red ones. 2 - I'm surprised the dealer just allowed the button to go all in after removing the two red chips. If it were me, I'd have ruled that as a call and [B]only[/B] a call. Neither their verbal statements or physical actions suggested that they really meant to go all in. Of course if you as the other player in the hand tell me you're OK with them going all in... meh, you're all big kids and I guess I can allow it. I don't work for a casino though, and some casinos might have different ideas about dealer discretion in that situation given the possibility that the losing player in the hand could protest afterwards and claim that the rules were broken in the hand and the dealer should never have allowed it regardless of any agreement between the players. Hope that helps :) [/QUOTE]

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