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[QUOTE="Grossberger, post: 1567424, member: 55797"]
I know the rules don't specify what "clearly identifiable" means but I believe it to be like this... I bet and get called and player says straight and I muck then player turns over hand but doenst have a straight, now my cards are not mingled with the rest of the muck cards but close then my cards can be brought out. I can't think of any place that would take the mucked cards to another table and find 2 cards that the player says he had. If thats the case then players would let their cards get mucked and claim to have AA or KK or AK and take a chance that the other players mucked those cards. Like 1 player mucked K3 off and another mucked K5 off well there are 2 Kings in the muck so must the players cards that got mucked.
 
As for the Estelle Denie hand if you watch the dealer muck her cards they look at the wrong cards they look at the 2 cards on top when her cards actually went under those 2 cards.
 
Now I was watching the United States poker championship and a ruling came down that I thought was utterly stupid. Player is faced with a bet, his cards are right at the rail of the table he takes a stack of chips and counts out the bet just above his cards but no where near the line, and was told that since the chips went past his cards they had to go in the pot. Now by that ruling players taht have a giant amount of chips that go out say 8 inches from the rail would have to go in the pot when player looks at his cards since the chips are past his cards. I wish I could find video on it but can't.
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