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Message: [QUOTE="Ice Wolf, post: 916697, member: 273967"] Completly and totally agree with this guy. Full Tilt scrws you over on the river and pokerstars scrws you over on the turn. The problem with the turn scrw over is that it is often not as obvious. Agian there is no software that can prove this but it often seems like on pokerstars that anytime you get two pair someone will hit their pocket pairs on the turn for the set. Next time you lose to a set on pokerstars just look at where the set was made. In my experience 4 out of 5 sets on stars are made on the turn. [/QUOTE]