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Message: [QUOTE="MediaBLITZ, post: 1885491, member: 77190"] Thinking about this some more I have pulled some numbers out of my ass (but am striving to be accurate). My poker knowledge (albeit limited) breakdown probably looks something like this (where the knowledge came from): [B]Books - 60%[/B] Phil Gordon - 30% Dan Harrington - 10% Ed Miller - 15% Phil Hellmuth - 3% Daniel Negreanu - 2% [B]Training Sites - 30%[/B] Poker VT - 8% Deepstacks U - 20% Other - 2% [B]Coaches - 5%[/B] [B]Forums - 5%[/B] Now these numbers can be very misleading because it is not just about "knowledge". For example Dan Harrington is only 10% but his books are almost my entire foundation for hand analysis and review. And that 5% next to Forums is most of the application and practice of those principles. The 5% next to coaches includes revealing and eliminating a bunch of tells I had - critical to my success at a live table. So each percent is important but you can see that the foundation goes back to Phil Gordon's material (as it is with many regulars in here) - without which I would have probably struggled with Harrington and without that probably would not have understood Miller. It's a vicious cycle - LOL. My point is (and I can say this from experience) you are not practicing good BRM to invest in a coach if you have not laid your foundation and have a good existing framework. So here I am having to take extensive notes on my own play to take back to my coach to have something of value to talk about (which in itself is a great learning tool). So if you are going to move on to a coach (I do believe in coaching from GOOD coaches) you have to know what you want from it and you may also have to define your own curriculum, In order to do this you will have to know your strengths and weaknesses as well as knowing what you don't know - or don't understand. Then you can probably get some value out of a coach. If you can't do these things then you are not looking for a coach - you are looking for a teacher. Nothing a book couldn't do for you :D [/QUOTE]

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