Who will explain in popular terms why poker coaches create competitors for themselves?

ChemfromUKR · Nov 11, 2023

Can someone explain to me why people who make money playing poker end up also becoming poker coaches? In the end, they only make things worse for themselves, at least in the long run. Increase the number of adequate players. Or is all this training just to some extent nonsense and an easy way to make money?
I want to sign up for training, but I can't understand the point of a player who really wins sharing knowledge with me.

hardongear · Nov 11, 2023

Simple there's is really nothing for them to lose. Being a winning player takes a lot more then being good at poker.

Majority of human race can't even balance their own cheque book/budget and have almost ZERO patience and no mental toughness/tilt control. You could be the best poker player in the world and have all the poker knowledge in the world but without being able to balance a budget, balance a check book, management a bankroll, have patience and mental toughness/tilt control you'll never be a winning player.

EDIT: Majority don't even need coaching or need to be paying for coaching to beat the stakes we play as the majority play micro(2nl)-low stakes(50nl). There's more then plenty FREE available material that can getting you beating 2nl-50nl. Problem is one also needs bankroll management, patience and mental toughness/tilt control to beat 2nl-50nl. Majority don't and will never have those things no matter how good and how much poker knowledge they have.

Cheers!!!

Skot_Gy · Nov 11, 2023

People who achieved to live from poker are at a level which is unreachavle for the vast majority of the players. Nomatter how much they study. Cause they don't have the other skills (beside learning).
So, for a poker master, teaching courses gives at least two benefits: he wins money from courses, and he widens the number of good player in general, so he can win potentially more money from a larger pool of players.

Sopt · Nov 11, 2023

Are you better at math than your professor at high school? Are you better than your primary school teacher in languages? How about chemistry? Physics? Ect.

You might answer some of those questions with yes, but for a wast majority it's a no. They are not even close in the knowledge of their teacher. While coaching people you give them a better grasp of a subject and indirectly making your competition stronger, there are still a lot more people that you will make the profit off. Teaching those few individuals and maybe creating a new poker genius won't make you yourself a losing player, if anything it's an extra earning (pretty good actually if you're good at it), where you don't rely on variance. And to some people it's just a worthwhile experience to teach others.

Joe · Nov 11, 2023

Learning and teaching is one of the core meanings of life and staples of human civilisation.

It is always a two way street.

Learners benefit from teachers and teachers benefit from students, in a variety of ways.

One of my favourite sayings is 'You cannot hold a lantern to someone else's path without also lighting your own'.

CataRouillet · Nov 11, 2023

I think the explanation is simple, they do it because they generate income by being poker teachers, so they not only generate income from the game themselves, they also generate income from teaching.

puzzlefish · Nov 11, 2023

CataRouillet said:
I think the explanation is simple, they do it because they generate income by being poker teachers, so they not only generate income from the game themselves, they also generate income from teaching.

Exactly. They make more money from coaching than the competition that they create with teaching concepts to players that aren't the biggest fish anyway.

CataRouillet · Nov 11, 2023

puzzlefish said:
Exactly. They make more money from coaching than the competition that they create with teaching concepts to players that aren't the biggest fish anyway.

100% agree. And in any case, the players who participate in their courses rarely reach the same level. So they win everywhere.

nazarkrasnuk · Nov 13, 2023

ChemfromUKR said:
Can someone explain to me why people who make money playing poker end up also becoming poker coaches? In the end, they only make things worse for themselves, at least in the long run. Increase the number of adequate players. Or is all this training just to some extent nonsense and an easy way to make money?
I want to sign up for training, but I can't understand the point of a player who really wins sharing knowledge with me.

The decision for successful poker players to become poker coaches is influenced by various factors, and it's not necessarily detrimental to their long-term success.

nazarkrasnuk · Nov 13, 2023

Some successful players genuinely enjoy teaching and sharing their knowledge with others. Helping others improve their skills can be fulfilling and satisfying.

Poker Orifice · Nov 15, 2023

ChemfromUKR said:
Can someone explain to me why people who make money playing poker end up also becoming poker coaches? In the end, they only make things worse for themselves, at least in the long run. Increase the number of adequate players. Or is all this training just to some extent nonsense and an easy way to make money?
I want to sign up for training, but I can't understand the point of a player who really wins sharing knowledge with me.

It does seem like a bad business plan doesn't it.
What I find even more peculiar is the guys who give a ton of free advice on poker forums. Sort of like the 'look how smart I am!' But how smart is to educate the player pool

As a few others have mentioned, some enjoy teaching.

I think you'll get a good answer if you ask a coach this question.

Gallarado777 · Nov 15, 2023

if you want to sign up for a coach it's not a mistake, you'll gain new knowledge and play a little better than you played before you play why they do it to make money obviously give knowledge that you will gain yourself but you have to go through a lot to gain this knowledge and they will give you it now, that's why you pay money everyone who made a lot of money they almost all play at the same level, just someone is luckier

Mag_P1e · Nov 15, 2023

I think these people are simply confident in their game and are not afraid of competition, and besides, it is far from a fact that students ever reach the abi coaches.

venycyos · Nov 15, 2023

Teaching is also a way of studying, anyone who has ever set out to teach something will one day realize that you learn a lot when you teach, either because you have to express your knowledge, filling in gaps that may exist in it, or because you have to respond questions asked by students.

Academico · Nov 15, 2023

The decision of successful players to become poker coaches can be understood from several perspectives. Firstly, sharing knowledge and techniques with others does not necessarily make things worse for them, but can be rewarding and offer a sense of contribution to the poker community. Additionally, teaching others can strengthen the trainer's own understanding and skills, as explaining concepts often requires a deeper understanding.

In popular terms, many poker coaches see coaching as a way to give back to the poker community and help others improve their game.

chicbulls2 · Nov 15, 2023

Just a way to earn some more money

rachelle2291 · Nov 15, 2023

They like to make some money that is more guaranteed without risk. They might be married and have a family to support so by teaching they can stay at home more and cut down on expenses.

pentazepam · Nov 15, 2023

It's a no-variance safe income.

A lot of coaches don't crush online poker for example.

cwdignus · Nov 15, 2023

the more people playing poker the better for those who play poker, knowing how to play and training does not guarantee victory or profitability

Rahatis · Nov 15, 2023

The ocean is huge.

tiptools · Nov 15, 2023

apparently they make more from couching than they would from poker

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