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The whole "raising for information" shebang
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[QUOTE="Irexes, post: 474805, member: 13873"] Summary: The post below says the same as everyone else I just ramble more :) Just to add my agreement that there are massive differences in strategy and tactics between cash and tourney play (and between rebuy and freezeout as noted). This is a subject that I find really interesting and given my barely profitable cash game is the reason why I tend to only comment on tourney posts as I am aware that the subtleties of cash games pass me by. Similarly I've seen succcessful cash players apply +chipEV thinking to tournies in a way that doesn't maximise $. When chipEV=$EV there can be something approaching a "correct" play that can be demonstrated to be a long-term correct strategy given a certain number of variables being the same. Although there is a broader context in cash games in which each hand takes place, each hand exists as it's own individual game where a player ends the hand with more or less chips than they started and can walk away if they wish. In tournies it's a lot harder to find these situation as each hand is not a closed game. Success and failure can only be measured at the end of the tourney and long-term $EV can only be measured over hundreds (if not thousands) of tournies. The upshot as it relates to the orignal post and betting for information is that in a tourney you can make a bet not because you think it's +chipEV but because it's correct to do so in the context of the tournament. It is also sometimes correct to take down a pot rather than give an opponent the opportunity to hit their draw even if in chip terms they are chasing against the pot odds (which is a cash game would be a great +$EV situation) because the risk/reward of the extra chips is not worth busting out a certain % of the time. Betting/raising for information in tourney is sometimes more to do with a context that is broader than the action and chips in the hand in question and less to do with chip EV. [/QUOTE]
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