Why couldn't I reraise in that hand? What is the rule?

Why couldn't I reraise in that hand? What is the rule?

I had the nuts on the river. I made a small bet and the short stack goes allin. One player calls and the action is to me but the only options I have is to call or fold; so no reraise possible.

Why?

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/17362041_2F7B1FBDCF

Raise rules:
Any raise (or bet) must be equal to or greater than the previous bet (or big blind) to be considered a full action.
Only players who have not acted may bet, raise, or re-raise a non-full action.

What does this mean. Well in this hand you bet 318, this is your action for the betting round. Player 6 then went all in for 500. This is not a full action because the raise was not equal to the previous bet (yours at 318). A full raise here would be 636. Since the raise was not full, and you have already acted, you may not re-raise. All other people in this hand can raise because they have not acted yet.

I would think player 8 would know this rule, and knew you could not raise, that is probably why he called, but you never know. Knowing this rule allows to you be in players 8 position and get a cheap showdown which is nice.

This rule is somehow strange. If the player 6 you are refering to, went all in you shouldnt apply the rule since he is doing the maximum bet possible!

I did not know this rule was not so . Good to know , thank you!

drcarloshimg said:

This rule is somehow strange. If the player 6 you are refering to, went all in you shouldnt apply the rule since he is doing the maximum bet possible!

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That is insignificant and has no bearing on the rule. The rule does not care if you have a dollar left or 90% of the tourney chips. The numbers are the numbers.

I will add that one motivation for this rule is angle shooting. If our hero was actually an angler, his motivation would be to get player 8 to call and then raise (the extreme would be say hero bet minimum 150, and player 6 only had 155 and shoved, 8 would snap call no doubt, and then hero can raise again? Does not seem fair here, and its not, hence one reason for the rule)

detroitjunkie said:

What does this mean. Well in this hand you bet 318, this is your action for the betting round. Player 6 then went all in for 500. This is not a full action because the raise was not equal to the previous bet (yours at 318). A full raise here would be 636. Since the raise was not full, and you have already acted, you may not re-raise. All other people in this hand can raise because they have not acted yet.

I would think player 8 would know this rule, and knew you could not raise, that is probably why he called, but you never know. Knowing this rule allows to you be in players 8 position and get a cheap showdown which is nice.

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Ty. So I was in an awkward spot since as soon as player 6 moved allin; the raising action was taken away from me; unless player 8 made a full action by raising himself right?

Gorak said:

Ty. So I was in an awkward spot since as soon as player 6 moved allin; the raising action was taken away from me; unless player 8 made a full action by raising himself right?

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That is correct. But unless he had the same hand as you he will never raise here. I would never raise with a set here in this spot, and def not two pair. Folding all pairs except maybe top top, and then just a call maybe.

Now that you know the rule, in your spot you bet 250, then you can raise, but I think 8 folds if you do, but thats insignificant, this can now be part of your game play in the future as a useful tool.

detroitjunkie said:

Now that you know the rule, in your spot you bet 250, then you can raise, but I think 8 folds if you do, but thats insignificant, this can now be part of your game play in the future as a useful tool.

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I don't think player 8 knew the rule and he had AT so bottom str8. I think he would have called for $500.

Then I could have put a raise; but by now he would be very suspicious and probably fold to anything but minraise.

Detroit is right. The player who went all-in with 500 did not complete his raise, so technically you have not been raised only called. When the next player called the 500, your only option was to call. You probably squeezed maximum value out of that hand, unless player 8 had an ace for a five-high straight.

This rule has made me say WTF before.

Thankyou detroitjunkie for explaining this rule so that even simpletons like me
can understand it

Cheers for that