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Message: [QUOTE="quads, post: 729737, member: 18369"] I would like to add to [B][U]aliengenius’s[/U][/B] list of reasons why you might win live, but not online: 1. The live game is being played at a nice reasonable pace. You’re not being forced to play over a 100 hands an hour. And although a handful of people can successfully multi-table online (similar to being a professional black-jack card counter) trying to navigate seven hundred to over a thousand hands per hour with your “A” game, would be financial suicide for 90% of online players. You have much more time playing live to cool down after a bad hand or two. You’d be rushed through 4 hands online while steaming, as apposed to 1 playing live. 2. If you’re a poker player, [B][U]not a gambler[/U][/B], and even if you only play live games at two maybe three times a week, you would have financial records of your live play, and also would be able to determine if you’re a winning player. Of course the data base when compared to online play would be a huge difference, but that doesn’t mean it has to be better. If you’re taking poker serious and unless you live close to a casino, you would know where all the local clubs are. I play live about 3 times a week and know and play in seven different clubs, picking and choosing the games and tournaments taking place. Only living a couple hours away from both Conn. and A. City, I get to visit them often, and play in most of the good tournaments taking place. Traveling with wife and friends for a weekend, always having a great time along with great food, shows, and usually great sex, regardless what happens at the tables is a much better way to enjoy poker. 3. I also agree with aleingenius that live players may be worse then online players. I would guess that it would only make sense that live play would be an easier place to make money. 4. Saying you’re winning 2 out of 3 tournaments live or online is probably not likely. But most tournaments I play live locally, never have less then twenty and usually never more then 50 entries. So winning 2 out of 3 tournaments would happen much more often live then online. Usually top 4 seats in one of these tournaments starting at 130.00 to 550.00 dollar buy-ins usually make’s for a nice nights work and really spikes the ROI. (along with always a free meal) [I]Lower stakes online. You might not take the game as seriously, or play to your "A" level if you are only playing a $5 tournament as opposed to buying in live for $120.[/I] That’s usually what you could expect from most players online at these stakes, so why would you even bother playing this garbage? Are you just killing time and getting rid of five bucks, while praying to the poker gods? 5. Distractions while playing online are ridicules for most players. Depending on any person’s present life, to include wife, children, parents, phones, computer at finger tips with tons of distracting options, etc. etc., playing online could become a challenge long before you even start a game. If one of the biggest distractions playing live is constantly being forced to concentrate on your game, well I guess I really have nothing to say here. And occasionally looking up at a beautiful woman with eye popping jugs, the 1.00 dollar tip for a coke is not all bad. 6. I have played through a whole live tournament without picking up on one single tell. Yet, I can’t begin to tell you how many hands I won especially at crucial times that changed the entire outcome for me during a live tournament being right on a tell. Live tells become [B][U]more obvious[/U] [/B]during middle and late play with the cash basically on the table. This option is totally missing from online. Discovery of betting patterns is crucial and key both for online and live play. But, thinking live tells is overrated, is a sign of a weak live player. 7. Many live pros do very well playing online also. But most of these players have the pockets to play with other fortunate online players with money to burn. Being able to play in $1,000.00 up to $5,000.00 dollar buy-in tournaments, or high stakes cash games on consistent basics is for a very elite group. Winning just one of those tourneys or having a good week at the cash tables could do wonders for your ROI. You see many pros at the cheap tables 5/10 etc. but I’m sure their sponsor wants them to mingle with the common people also. [/QUOTE]

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