Why do live poker players play trash hands?

Pokergambler11 · Sep 10, 2015

whenever I watch some poker tournament on youtube I see people who call with maybe an A6, or maybe even raise with a J8? Whats the go? On online people hardley ever do that, and if they do they are considered a donkey. Daniel neg whatever his last name likes calling with unsuited connectors. People say to play tight but live poker seems to be loose.
I'm checking youtube now and i see a thumbnail that shows someone winning with K8 vs Q10.

hffjd2000 · Sep 11, 2015

Not all hands are shown live. They dont show those many trash hands muck.

Vollycat · Sep 11, 2015

Not all hands are shown live. They don't show those many trash hands muck.

This.

As well, they don't show you the 3 hours where Daniel has been watching the players and getting reads on the table, it's hard to see the chip stacks involved, you don't know the texture of the table may have been created from the last handful of hands. Basically you are seeing a snapshot in time and not getting the whole picture of what's going on.

11012015 · Sep 11, 2015

They have a lot of experience.

teepack · Sep 12, 2015

I agree with you James. I am frequently surprised at what cards the pros play. They are basically relying on their aggression and the opponent not to hit a flop it seems.

10058765 · Sep 12, 2015

the best pros play their hands to make you believe you're behind, thus making you fold somewhere in the hand.
If they have very strong hands, they play it a way to make you believe you're ahead, thus making you donate more chips.

If they don't succeed in that, they'll still always make you wonder what they have.

Now, if they were only playing strong holdings, they would be exploitable, don't you think ?

rifflemao · Sep 12, 2015

jamesabeleven said:
whenever I watch some poker tournament on youtube I see people who call with maybe an A6, or maybe even raise with a J8? Whats the go? On online people hardley ever do that, and if they do they are considered a donkey. Daniel neg whatever his last name likes calling with unsuited connectors. People say to play tight but live poker seems to be loose.
I'm checking youtube now and i see a thumbnail that shows someone winning with K8 vs Q10.

A strong online player with a stack will raise and even 3-bet with those hands. I watched a hand history review of a guy who chopped a FT tourney for $32k, and he routinely played what you call trash hands, sometimes 3-betting all in with trash like J5o, depending on the stats of the player he's up against. He plays very well post-flop and gets a lot of bluffs through that most players aren't willing to try. Very creative player.

tilan501 · Sep 12, 2015

I have already seen some videos about how pro's teaching and the biggest diference most of then say is that a pro know how to win money without big hands.

lcid86 · Sep 17, 2015

A pro is counting on beating you based on his reads. The phrase play the player, not the cards applies to lots of live games.

dnegsisabadreg · Sep 17, 2015

You also have to remember that there's some value in playing strangely on TV. Having a reputation as someone who's loose and bluffs a lot can lead to a fanbase which obviously leads to sponsors. Also, once you're known as a sicko people will spaz out against you and call you with garbage - how many times did Tom Dwan get people to call river bets with the nuts?

babaji · Sep 21, 2015

They play against each other a lot, they get a good read of opponents and occasionally play trashy hands to test how good they are against strong opponents. Ask Phil Hellmuth about trashy hands.

brno22 · Sep 22, 2015

They can play the exact hands and thus can enter with weak hands

joe777 · Sep 22, 2015

Sometimes you got to play the villain not his hole card itself.

6bet me · Sep 22, 2015

Because live is so slow that people get frustrated waiting for so long.

tilan501 · Sep 22, 2015

Because alive bluffing is pretty diferent.When you might see the players reaction and study them better you can win without hand so many times!

lilpotato · Sep 22, 2015

Many of the videos on youtube are of short handed tables (many final tables) with large blinds and antes relative to the stacks at the table so you are going to see wide opening ranges or opens that have absolutely nothing at all to do with the cards but only position. That does not mean they played that way to get to the final table they have just adjusted their opens appropriately for the situation in most cases.

adenosine · Sep 22, 2015

jamesabeleven said:
whenever I watch some poker tournament on youtube I see people who call with maybe an A6, or maybe even raise with a J8? Whats the go? On online people hardley ever do that, and if they do they are considered a donkey. Daniel neg whatever his last name likes calling with unsuited connectors. People say to play tight but live poker seems to be loose.
I'm checking youtube now and i see a thumbnail that shows someone winning with K8 vs Q10.

online players play even worse hands

SlavaUa · Sep 22, 2015

On tube they show trash hands which wins, but not all, and online people play more trash than live, and it is true.

arborest · Sep 22, 2015

Because they can handle it. They have skills what others dont have.

ribbybruno · Sep 23, 2015

I have been on tables where great players raise every time on the button and raise/call down being in the BB. Another player on the table will get frustrated with this type of aggression and try to do something. This is usually when the great player catches a big hand AA, KK or QQ and doubles up. The great players never stop betting and you never can put them on a hand!!! Johnny Chan videos are good to watch!

goddyvips007 · Sep 23, 2015

LIVE Poker vs online poker
-face expression -No expression
-Trust in dealer -No trust
-More bulfing -less compared

Rgregor · Sep 24, 2015

Play with trash hands its not a bad idea if you have conditions to do it. And if you know who are you opponents. id like to play with trash hands when have 4 or 5 active opponents on a hand and we have a small bet on preflop or just the bb value to pay.

PokerFunKid · Sep 24, 2015

In most cases i think the pro's that play 'trashhands' think they have a big edge on the table and they can outplay opponents post flop. They are playing their opponents, not their cards if that makes sence. And maybe they are trying to get a table image of playing a wide range of hands.

Dartmatrix · Sep 24, 2015

I don't think they are playing trash hands, just to get lucky. They are playing there opponents at the table. Some times just to get a read on them. Plus it helps in throwing off the other players at the table. When they see you play bad hands, they don't know when you are playing trash or when you're strong. But you will hardly ever see a good player go all-in on bad cards.

garpsc · Sep 24, 2015

all true, u can't take this as serious, because u don't see the all the picture

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