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Message: [QUOTE="dj11, post: 2102360, member: 13851"] I can't remember very well, and haven't played it for 40 years at least, but one of the kitchen table games we used to play was 7 card roll'em. Might have been called No See'em. Each dealt 7 down cards, and (2 variations) then each would roll one card, and a betting round ensues. The variations would be, each player gets to decide the order of the cards they roll, meaning they looked at their cards and made that decision, and the blind version, where each player sees his cards for the first time when everyone sees them. When I think about it, the first version (I get to decide what card to roll, and when to roll it) would clearly be the purest form of poker. Also the most devious, perverted form of manipulative poker ever conceived. I don't remember if we played it Hi/Lo but boy would that game be a kick in the ass!:eek: [/QUOTE]