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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 2322968, member: 23910"] I think we everyone needs to take a deep breath and then go back to read the actual definition of "gambling". [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling"]This is a pretty good definition[/URL]: [INDENT]Gambling is the wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize.[/INDENT] Does employment pass that test? You're not actually wagering any of your own money on it - quite the opposite. For it to qualify as gambling, you'd be relying on time and effort to count as the "stakes". The outcome doesn't have any uncertainty either, in most employment situations. Work X hours, get paid Y dollars. The length of time for which you'll be offered that deal is uncertain, but while you're actually doing the work there's no uncertainty. It is, of course, a no brainer that employment passes the third test. But you've gotta draw an incredibly long bow to get it to pass the first two. And keep in mind that even if you do get fired, you're only losing your [i]future[/i] potential to earn money - they don't take away the money you've already earned. Compare that to poker, where you can very easily end up with [b]less[/b] money than what you started with. And even if someone were to concede your previous arguments about employment being a gamble, there's still no way you can [b]ever[/b] reduce the risks in poker to an extent where it's less "risky" than employment. So... long story short, I'm not really sure what your point is. If your point is that everything in life is a gamble then yes, if you stretch the definition of "gambling" far enough then you could make that argument. I don't know what that's supposed to prove though. Until the PPA successfully manages to get the definition of gambling changed to something other than the one above, then they're barking up the wrong tree. Poker is gambling, cut and dried. Consideration, chance, prize. Passes all three tests with flying colours. You might as well try to argue that marijuana isn't a drug :p [/QUOTE]

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