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Message: [QUOTE="WVHillbilly, post: 1673420, member: 29447"] No it's not but it depends on what you're shoving your million with. If' you shove with 72o and your opponent only calls with KK+ ~1% it's going to be a losing shove (even factoring in your ~12% equity with 72o when called). But if you're only shoving AA and he still calls with KK+ it will be profitable. So for 72o our equity calc looks like this: 99% of the time we win $3 or ($2.97) and 1% of the time we lose -$880000 on average (-$8800) so shoving $1Mil into $3 with 72o has an expectation of -$8797.03. Our AA calc would be 99.5% win $3 (2.99), .05% we win $773000 on average ($3865) for a total expectation of $3868.99. [/QUOTE]