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Message: [QUOTE="Moneykur, post: 1416736, member: 65825"] I haven't read beyond the first page of this thread, but I don't think some people realize exactly what was going on here. I think Toth was trying to bluff slowplaying trip Jacks. By raising but just calling ElkY's re-raise, Toth must have known ElkY would have put him on Queens or Jacks or something of that nature. What I would have done is place a suspiciously small bet on the flop, like a fifth of the pot. Whatever ElkY raised, I would then reraise. ElkY would probably fold. If ElkY re-re-raised, I would fold. If he called, I would assume (because of the preflop raise-athon) he didn't have pocket jacks, so I would know I'm ahead at that point but that he does have SOMETHING, probably a draw. If the hand made it to the turn, I would HAVE to bet in Toth's position to see where I'm at. If ElkY was bluffing he would HAVE to fold at that point unless he's a true maniac. Or, Toth thought ElkY had something big (Aces or Kings) on the flop but then changed his mind halfway through. Either way, I agree with the OP. This IS a good example of why to not be a calling station. In this game, you have to bet to get and give information. Checking all the way to the river with a high pair on the flop is just dumb. It's like straight marching to war against an enemy army of totally unknown strength lead by a notoriously crafty general who prefers guerrilla tactics (ElkY) when all you know is that your own army is slightly better than the world average. Edit: Also, this is a good reason to never slowplay anything lower than a straight (unless you're BLUFFING a slowplay). [/QUOTE]

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