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Message: [QUOTE="antonis32123, post: 6830007, member: 127517"] If we are talking about live poker , i would say a bad beat is a hand where the other player wins the hand with a extremely lucky hand , lets say runner runner he wins on the river after a flop shove . If you have odds like 99% to win on the flop , and then you lose on the river with runner runner , yeah thats a bad beat lol . and ofcourse crazy hands like straight flush vs full house , or royal flush vs four of a kind , yeah then its bad beat Ofcourse many times you lose with an unlucky hand , then its not bad beat , just bad luck . But online i tend to say bad beat all the time , even if its just over pair or better set that wins , cause i have seen many set up hands winning . Then the table suddenly breaks . that's very common on JokerStars . When you lose with a very unlucky hand , or even a bad beat hand , the table breaks , and players are being transferred to other tables . that's disgusting I i played a 11$ powerpath tourney recently . i had KK preflop , on the flop i had best hand , i shoved , he tanked , delayed using time bank , then he called with absolutely nothing , he had KQ , miracle cards on the turn and river , runner runner cards gave him the straight on the river , he needed both cards to win , them and nothing else , and RNG gave them to him . Now either he is a pro who manipulates RNG or its a poker rooms' bot . In any case , if that happened in a live poker homegame , i would think maybe they set me up to lose , the cards , the dealer , who knows . if it was a very well known and trusted event like wsop , i would say that the player opponent is clearly stupid , a lucky stupid . but online .... online its a different story , so yeah , that hand live would be a bad luck/unlucky hand (probably) , [B]but online you can call it a bad beat , a bad BEAT by RNG to you , as if RNG strikes or beats you on purpose ....lol[/B] [/QUOTE]

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