How much money should be in a poker account to feel comfortable?

Poker Orifice · Mar 30, 2024

i want million

Zorba · Mar 30, 2024

Poker Orifice said:
i want million

If I had a million bux, it wouldn't be in a poker account.

SpanRmonka · Mar 30, 2024

Zorba said:
If I had a million bux, it wouldn't be in a poker account.

Unless you wanted to play $10k buy ins!! Then you'd have to keep it in, or be accused of bad BR mgt

Zorba · Mar 30, 2024

SpanRmonka said:
Unless you wanted to play $10k buy ins!! Then you'd have to keep it in, or be accused of bad BR mgt

I can think of hundreds of better things to do with $10K than blow it on poker.

ramdon p358 · Mar 30, 2024

In my case only a thousand dollars would be enough, this is different depending on the country where you live

Ruslan L · Mar 31, 2024

luckyfish98 said:
The more the better, but I like that there is more than 1 K !

Hi
I increase my bankroll exclusively by playing freerolls, I don't spend my own money on the game. For me, $100 is the optimal bankroll size, I just don't need more. I very rarely spend more than $5 in one game night.

fundiver199 · Mar 31, 2024

SpanRmonka said:
Another example is if you have $10 in one account but $1000 in another, are you Bankrolled differently for each site??? No, you can play whatever you are comfortable playing on either site, as you can easily top up one account from the other.

In this example you have a reasonable bankroll for 25NL cash games or $10 tournaments. But you cant play neither of that with just $10 sitting in the cashier. Even with $100 you would be severely limited, since after buying in for 100BB to 4 cash tables, you would have no money left to top up or rebuy, if you lose some pots. Or if you play 10 tournaments without cashing, you would already be out of funds.

And while you can move money around, its not like, this is an instant process. Typically it takes at least 1-2 days to withdraw, and only then is the money available to deposit on another site. There might also be costs involved. For instance when I withdraw from PokerStars, they dont give me the same exchange range between USD and SEK, as when I deposit. So if I constantly moved funds in and out of my PokerStars account, I would be bleeding money over time.

Finally in some countries like Sweden and Germany, there are mandatory deposit limits. In Sweden its 5.000 SEK or around $470 per week with the current exchange rate. So if you are a highroller and wants to play the coming SCOOP series on PokerStars, this will not be possible, if you live in Sweden, unless you left some funds on the site from the last time, you played there.

So while I do agree, that a poker bankroll is all the money, you have available for poker, and not the balance on a certain site, in reality you do need to have a reasonable amount of money sitting on any site, where you want to play regularly. And if you want to play on many sites, if practice you will need a bigger bankroll, than if you only play on 1-2 sites, since you dont want to constantly be visiting the cashier to withdraw or deposit.

kosha_ · Mar 31, 2024

In my opinion, 200 buyins are exactly what you need...

Emily Trott · Mar 31, 2024

I like to keep enough there for at least ten tournaments. I don't leave a lot laying around in my online account because I don't one hundred percent trust that they won't be frozen for some reason or another.

A kiravio · Mar 31, 2024

Here I would say that there is no other rule; Have enough in your bankroll to enjoy yourself and not worry about whether you have enough.
It's true that we all set some limits to be safe, but for the dream question maybe (it's good) it would be a bankroll that really doesn't worry you and then you play your money for your passion not for other reasons......it would be a nice dream for those of us who don't have enough 😉

SpanRmonka · Mar 31, 2024

fundiver199 said:
In this example you have a reasonable bankroll for 25NL cash games or $10 tournaments. But you cant play neither of that with just $10 sitting in the cashier. Even with $100 you would be severely limited, since after buying in for 100BB to 4 cash tables, you would have no money left to top up or rebuy, if you lose some pots. Or if you play 10 tournaments without cashing, you would already be out of funds.

And while you can move money around, its not like, this is an instant process. Typically it takes at least 1-2 days to withdraw, and only then is the money available to deposit on another site. There might also be costs involved. For instance when I withdraw from PokerStars, they dont give me the same exchange range between USD and SEK, as when I deposit. So if I constantly moved funds in and out of my PokerStars account, I would be bleeding money over time.

Finally in some countries like Sweden and Germany, there are mandatory deposit limits. In Sweden its 5.000 SEK or around $470 per week with the current exchange rate. So if you are a highroller and wants to play the coming SCOOP series on PokerStars, this will not be possible, if you live in Sweden, unless you left some funds on the site from the last time, you played there.

So while I do agree, that a poker bankroll is all the money, you have available for poker, and not the balance on a certain site, in reality you do need to have a reasonable amount of money sitting on any site, where you want to play regularly. And if you want to play on many sites, if practice you will need a bigger bankroll, than if you only play on 1-2 sites, since you dont want to constantly be visiting the cashier to withdraw or deposit.

True True, I guess I was making an extreme point for the purposes of BR mgt.....

Hadn't really considered other countries depositing laws etc, I suppose it actually could be really tough for some high stakes guys to keep enough funds for even a mild downswing, but also not wanting to have a huge amount actually deposited on a site, especially as you can't really trust the unregulated sites, or even potentially Stars at the minute, they are falling so fast, who knows what could happen.

For me deposits seem to happen instantly, hadn't even considered that it wouldn't work like that for everyone! Withdrawls do take a little bit of time though still!

member401988 · Mar 31, 2024

Zorba said:
If I had a million bux, it wouldn't be in a poker account.

the day you will win 8 million Sunday Million you will have a 1 million in poker account, although it will only be for one day, but it will be

ztibor72 · Mar 31, 2024

30 BI is the max I keep in a poker room.
The bankruptcy of Full Tilt and another room taught me not to keep my bankroll in rooms.

SpanRmonka · Mar 31, 2024

fundiver199 said:
In this example you have a reasonable bankroll for 25NL cash games or $10 tournaments. But you cant play neither of that with just $10 sitting in the cashier. Even with $100 you would be severely limited, since after buying in for 100BB to 4 cash tables, you would have no money left to top up or rebuy, if you lose some pots. Or if you play 10 tournaments without cashing, you would already be out of funds.

And while you can move money around, its not like, this is an instant process. Typically it takes at least 1-2 days to withdraw, and only then is the money available to deposit on another site. There might also be costs involved. For instance when I withdraw from PokerStars, they dont give me the same exchange range between USD and SEK, as when I deposit. So if I constantly moved funds in and out of my PokerStars account, I would be bleeding money over time.

Finally in some countries like Sweden and Germany, there are mandatory deposit limits. In Sweden its 5.000 SEK or around $470 per week with the current exchange rate. So if you are a highroller and wants to play the coming SCOOP series on PokerStars, this will not be possible, if you live in Sweden, unless you left some funds on the site from the last time, you played there.

So while I do agree, that a poker bankroll is all the money, you have available for poker, and not the balance on a certain site, in reality you do need to have a reasonable amount of money sitting on any site, where you want to play regularly. And if you want to play on many sites, if practice you will need a bigger bankroll, than if you only play on 1-2 sites, since you dont want to constantly be visiting the cashier to withdraw or deposit.

True True, I guess I was making an extreme point for the purposes of BR mgt.....

Hadn't really considered other countries depositing laws etc, I suppose it actually could be really tough for some high stakes guys to keep enough funds for even a mild downswing, but also not wanting to have a huge amount actually deposited on a site, especially as you can't really trust the unregulated sites, or even potentially Stars at the minute, they are falling so fast, who knows what could happen.

For me deposits seem to happen instantly, hadn't even considered that it wouldn't work like that for everyone! Withdrawls do take a little bit of time though still!

mclay · Mar 31, 2024

To feel comfortable at the tables you need to work on your game. If you don’t do this, then no amount of bankroll will help you feel comfortable.

Zorba · Mar 31, 2024

luckyfish98 said:
the day you will win 8 million Sunday Million you will have a 1 million in poker account, although it will only be for one day, but it will be

I'm not delusional, I know the limits to my ability, I don't play a lot of poker nowadays, all of the big rooms left Australia in 2017, I only have access to ACR and Everygame (Intertops).

I'm just a rec player now, I don't like long tournys, I played one yesterday that lasted 8 hours, I was out around the 6 1/2 hour mark, after running in top 15 for most of the game, it reminded me why I don't like long tournys, I play most of my poker in the AM, long tournys take up my whole day and I get nothing done.

Chebchoub · Mar 31, 2024

For me, the first deposit I made was $20 at Pokerstars. It was a good and quick experience as I lost everything on the second day. After that, I deposited the same amount several times, but unfortunately I faced the same problem and I was losing, and the reason is that I did not care about the bankroll rules. .
I think that what is more important than depositing is to respect and apply bankroll rules seriously, and play freerolls whenever you have the opportunity.

Poker Orifice · Mar 31, 2024

Zorba said:
I can think of hundreds of better things to do with $10K than blow it on poker.

many don't consider it 'blowing it on poker'.... instead you could think of it as an investment

Poker Orifice · Mar 31, 2024

SpanRmonka said:
or even potentially Stars at the minute, they are falling so fast, who knows what could happen.

I don't see them doing that badly. There's a player who took down $11k in an $11 buyin last week &will probably be another one on there this week.

The Sunday Million still reached it's $1 Million guarantee today and only a $109 buy-in (was originally a $215 buy-in).

Next week we'll probably see someone taking down $1 Million dollars from a $215 buy-in and I think we can expect April to be a busy month with the SCOOP series taking off.

They've definitely made some weird/poor decisions recently which will no doubt have the opposite result of what they're after but I don't think we can count them out yet. (ie. if they sell, surely the new owners will have done enough homework to be able to turn things around... how couldn't they?)

Kenzie 96 · Mar 31, 2024

Zorba said:
I'm not delusional, I know the limits to my ability, I don't play a lot of poker nowadays, all of the big rooms left Australia in 2017, I only have access to ACR and Everygame (Intertops).

I'm just a rec player now, I don't like long tournys, I played one yesterday that lasted 8 hours, I was out around the 6 1/2 hour mark, after running in top 15 for most of the game, it reminded me why I don't like long tournys, I play most of my poker in the AM, long tournys take up my whole day and I get nothing done. I'm just glad I have a job where I can spend my days playing online poker or perusing the Lamb of the Month centerfolds in Shepherders Delight magazine.

Fixed your post for you Nick, your welcome.

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10gerka · Mar 31, 2024

It depends on the level at which you play, but they always recommend having more than 80 boxes for cash and in tournaments much more due to the variance.

userX · Mar 31, 2024

luckyfish98 said:
The more the better, but I like that there is more than 1 K !

I would like to have a lot, like 10 or 100 million. I could do withdrawals every day, that would be cool. But in general, $50 is quite enough for me for a comfortable game

member401988 · Apr 1, 2024

you can get a lot of money in poker easily, but you can lose it even easier

fundiver199 · Apr 1, 2024

SpanRmonka said:
I suppose it actually could be really tough for some high stakes guys to keep enough funds for even a mild downswing, but also not wanting to have a huge amount actually deposited on a site, especially as you can't really trust the unregulated sites, or even potentially Stars at the minute, they are falling so fast, who knows what could happen.

Sure this is something, high stakes player need to consider, and at least diversify by not having all their funds sitting on a single site. For micro and low stakes players its not that important though. I currently have around $700 sitting on ACR and around $1.300 on PokerStars. And should either of those sites go bankrupt or decide to ban me and take my money for whatever reason, its not like, its going to significantly impact my life.

I also dont think, PokerStars is a likely candidate to go bankrupt. They are still the second larger operator, and they also have several geo-limited sites, which makes the difference between them and GG Poker smaller than it seems, if you just look at the numbers for Pokerstars.com. Small sites like PartyPoker and 888 Poker are in a much more vulnerable position, so there you might want to really think about not having more money sitting, than you need for the games, you play.

Recreationalplayer · Apr 1, 2024

Minimum of 20x bankroll for cash games and 150 -- 200x bankroll for Tourneys seem adequate.

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