Let's talk about bluffing

Anamembu · Sep 3, 2023

LaNimmer said:
I never bluff at freerolls. Cash games or mid stakes MTT mostly from the button and generally pre flop. I have pulled off a few killers but they are rare. Almost never live as I shake too much!

Good strategy, thanks for commenting.

Ultra21 · Sep 4, 2023

bluffing, whether semi or pure, is very player dependent. I used to have a nasty weakness where I did too much bluffing and semi-bluffing in games where players tend to call very wide all the way to the river. Admittedly this was due to me thinking I could be the next super-aggressive pro like Tom Dwan or Phil Ivey. But the reason it worked well for them was because of their strong understanding of range construction and game texture. I had none of that in the past. I'm getting better at choosing my spots, but I lost a lot money being nothing more than an aggro donkey.

Berandir · Sep 4, 2023

Yes! Bluffing is an advanced strategy in the game of poker, and it must be executed well! This requires studies on this topic, but I believe an important piece of information is: which opponent are you making this move against! This is important information because experienced players can decipher your action and risk your game!

mysterykite · Sep 5, 2023

dimon4ik89 said:
I agree with what you wrote. The ability to bluff is a very powerful weapon for any poker player. Most of the time I bluff when I'm in position and when I have a big stack. In order to win pots with bluffs, I need to know how my opponents play, tight or loose, aggressive or passive. And of course, I need to be very careful about how the hand goes, what bets were made before the flop, who raised, or vice versa, all the players just called the big blind. I think a good poker player should understand and feel when it's okay to bluff and when it's better not to.

Appreciate this - I am new here but have found how important the position is relative to betting paradigm. Valuable mention.

dreamer13 · Sep 6, 2023

If you are going to bluff, you must behave in exactly the same way as you behaved at the table before.Each hand is unique in its own way, and when you have full control of what happens at the table, your bluffs and the showdown of bluffs from your opponent begin to become real works of art.

Anamembu · Sep 7, 2023

Ultra21 said:
Bluffing, whether semi or pure, is very player dependent. I used to have a nasty weakness where I did too much bluffing and semi-bluffing in games where players tend to call very wide all the way to the river. Admittedly this was due to me thinking I could be the next super-aggressive pro like Tom Dwan or Phil Ivey. But the reason it worked well for them was because of their strong understanding of range construction and game texture. I had none of that in the past. I'm getting better at choosing my spots, but I lost a lot money being nothing more than an aggro donkey.

Good anecdote that gets to the point, it's difficult to use that strategy well, and there are several aspects to consider.

Berandir said:
Yes! Bluffing is an advanced strategy in the game of poker, and it must be executed well! This requires studies on this topic, but I believe an important piece of information is: which opponent are you making this move against! This is important information because experienced players can decipher your action and risk your game!

Studying opponents is always important. Thanks for commenting. Regards.

mysterykite said:
Appreciate this - I am new here but have found how important the position is relative to betting paradigm. Valuable mention.

Thank you for sharing in this thread. Regards.

dreamer13 said:
If you are going to bluff, you must behave in exactly the same way as you behaved at the table before.Each hand is unique in its own way, and when you have full control of what happens at the table, your bluffs and the showdown of bluffs from your opponent begin to become real works of art.

I agree with what you're saying, greetings, and thanks for writing.

Anamembu · Sep 7, 2023

LaNimmer said:
I never bluff at freerolls. Cash games or mid stakes MTT mostly from the button and generally pre flop. I have pulled off a few killers but they are rare. Almost never live as I shake too much!

I think what you're doing is fine, a bit conservative, but you're playing it safe.

samuri · Sep 7, 2023

don't go all in on a bluff because if you get called your out a lot so bluff intermediate .

Ultra21 · Sep 8, 2023

samuri said:
don't go all in on a bluff because if you get called your out a lot so bluff intermediate .

Can you elaborate on why you prefer not to bluff all-in? I think jamming as a bluff has some merit because it balances your all-in moves so more observant opponents don't have easy folds due to them correctly assuming your aggressive plays are only done with the nuts.

Phil Ivey07 · Sep 8, 2023

I think I am a huge bluffer. In most of the time I lost because of my bluff. At first I play without bluffing but when I feel like my opponent doesn't have good hand then I bluff then he calls my bluff and wins a huge pot.

Mag_P1e · Sep 8, 2023

I play at the micro-limit and freerolls, so I don’t even think about such a technique as bluffing. Here you will never knock out even the 5th pair from a person, let alone “represent” a flush or straight on a suitable river card.

Dejana · Sep 8, 2023

Bluffing online - 10%, bluffing live 30% - something like that.

I don't have an epic bluff story, that I can remember right now...

Anamembu · Sep 8, 2023

samuri said:
don't go all in on a bluff because if you get called your out a lot so bluff intermediate .

Good advice, it could be a motto.

Ultra21 said:
Can you elaborate on why you prefer not to bluff all-in? I think jamming as a bluff has some merit because it balances your all-in moves so more observant opponents don't have easy folds due to them correctly assuming your aggressive plays are only done with the nuts.

Actually, I don't usually use bluffs when playing, and if I do, I have an approach that could be considered more conservative

Phil Ivey07 said:
I think I am a huge bluffer. In most of the time I lost because of my bluff. At first I play without bluffing but when I feel like my opponent doesn't have good hand then I bluff then he calls my bluff and wins a huge pot.

A double-edged sword.

Mag_P1e said:
I play at the micro-limit and freerolls, so I don’t even think about such a technique as bluffing. Here you will never knock out even the 5th pair from a person, let alone “represent” a flush or straight on a suitable river card.

it's true, I agree with what you're saying.

AzdajaD said:
Bluffing online - 10%, bluffing live 30% - something like that.

I don't have an epic bluff story, that I can remember right now...

It could be a good percentage.

ShaDoWGuarD · Sep 9, 2023

I would appreciate a good bluff if it is done correctly and if the player making it understands what he is doing. Many people bluff, but few manage to make a profit from it at a distance. I generally don’t advise beginners to bluff in large pots; you can’t do small things very often, otherwise they’ll see through you and catch you bluffing. It is also very important to know the player against whom you are going to bluff, will he be able to fold his hand to your bluff or not?!

vitas_top · Sep 9, 2023

Yana can bluff. When I try to bluff, I lose.

chicbulls2 · Sep 9, 2023

Cant really win anything without a bluff, specially a tournament

ShaDoWGuarD said:
I would appreciate a good bluff if it is done correctly and if the player making it understands what he is doing. Many people bluff, but few manage to make a profit from it at a distance. I generally don’t advise beginners to bluff in large pots; you can’t do small things very often, otherwise they’ll see through you and catch you bluffing. It is also very important to know the player against whom you are going to bluff, will he be able to fold his hand to your bluff or not?!

It works better in a tourney, because you are changing tables more frequently

Anamembu · Sep 10, 2023

ShaDoWGuarD said:
I would appreciate a good bluff if it is done correctly and if the player making it understands what he is doing. Many people bluff, but few manage to make a profit from it at a distance. I generally don’t advise beginners to bluff in large pots; you can’t do small things very often, otherwise they’ll see through you and catch you bluffing. It is also very important to know the player against whom you are going to bluff, will he be able to fold his hand to your bluff or not?!

That's a good question that should be asked before considering bluffing.

vitas_top said:
Yana can bluff. When I try to bluff, I lose.

Maybe there are aspects mentioned in this thread that you are not taking into account to bluff successfully.

chicbulls2 said:
Cant really win anything without a bluff, specially a tournament

I think in tournaments, you can either play as you mentioned or choose to play fewer hands; both are valid options.

chicbulls2 said:
It works better in a tourney, because you are changing tables more frequently

I understand that you see it as an advantage when they move you to a different table; however, it's not as advantageous when you're the chip leader at the table.

Fofa · Sep 10, 2023

Everybody bluffs. Important toll of the game and if you dont use it i think you're not playing poker at the highest. Of course you gotta bluff right... Thats part of what makes a good and bad player.

bullkk · Sep 10, 2023

Bluff, this is an ordinary element of the game.

odonob · Sep 10, 2023

I would recommend against bluffs in freerolls, also important is variance within the game, you can end up double bluffing yourself.

TeUnit · Sep 10, 2023

I like to mix in over and under bets depending on the situation.

member401988 · Sep 11, 2023

bluffing is as necessary in poker as air, without bluffing you will never reach a high place

georgi krastev · Sep 11, 2023

I think that is good spot for bluffing...

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Toruk Makto · Sep 12, 2023

Nowadays it's increasingly difficult to bluff, players are paying for everything...
You can only bluff even with those who understand the game, bluffing anyone, it's a shot in the foot. Of course we always figure it out 😜

antonis32123 · Sep 12, 2023

bluffinmg system bots is impossible , bluffing players bots very hard. To bluff a normal guy who has no info on you , might be possible , might not so possible when he has played a lot against you , like it happened in CC games , we know each other when it comes to poker games style and strategy , if sb has a lot of notes and data and a good HUD and knows how to use all these , its had to bluff him i think .

Most of the times others try to bluff me , so i let them believe that they have the upper hand .......

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