The Brazilian courts say poker is not a game of chance

RoviP · Jan 29, 2023

Judge José Muiños Piñeiro Filho's decision says that poker is a game of skill and a sport of the mind and not a game of chance. This was found to be the judgement in Sao Paulo back in July 2019.

Good news for Brazil!

CBTH celebrates favourable court decision for poker in Rio de Janeiro

nerobs9 · Jan 30, 2023

Really good news. I don't consider poker gambling)

yuriko oyama · Jan 30, 2023

it's good to really separate poker from gambling, as poker has always demonstrated a real need for skill and not just being lucky.

fundiver199 · Jan 30, 2023

Congratulations. Presumably this will pave the way for land based casinos offering poker and/or regulated legalized online poker?

Stollpe · Jan 30, 2023

Hm, I had the feeling Brazilians have been playing online forever. But it was like in other countries and it was in a grey zone. Good news non the less.

G0930 · Jan 30, 2023

RoviP said:
Judge José Muiños Piñeiro Filho's decision says that poker is a game of skill and a sport of the mind and not a game of chance. This was found to be the judgement in Sao Paulo back in July 2019.

Good news for Brazil!

CBTH celebrates favourable court decision for poker in Rio de Janeiro

Nice! , this was also ruled by an Austrian judge but regardless of that our government shut down all cardrooms with mafia methods...intimidation , destroying poker tables etc 2 years ago..
Since then the state has a monopoly on gambling AND Poker 🙄

Andyreas · Jan 30, 2023

G0930 said:
Since then the state has a monopoly on gambling AND Poker 🙄

Well played Austrian government. 🙃

G0930 · Jan 30, 2023

Andyreas said:
Well played Austrian government. 🙃

I suppose so lol . Monopolies are against our constitution of course but no one wants a lawsuit against the state ^^

dreamer13 · Jan 30, 2023

Few people know that Brazil once had a thriving casino industry. In the 20s and 30s of the twentieth century, Rio attracted many with its glittering luxury gambling establishments in the style of the French Riviera. But the industry did not receive the approval of the conservative and religious sections of society, and was eventually banned in 1946 by presidential decree. The new law went into effect on the same day, giving businesses and employees no time to prepare.Resort casinos were included in a proposed tourism law, and in 2020 they are included in a separate bill: on Integrated Resorts, Brazil legalizes poker and considers it an intellectual game. Thus, poker is able to relieve stress and train thinking.In addition, scientists have also managed to prove the effect of online poker on the cognitive function of the brain. The game of poker is largely dependent on variable factors that the player will have to analyze and take into account when considering their further actions. In other words, poker forces a person to learn something new, which is a kind of training for the brain.

dallam · Jan 30, 2023

dreamer13 said:
Few people know that Brazil once had a thriving casino industry. In the 20s and 30s of the twentieth century, Rio attracted many with its glittering luxury gambling establishments in the style of the French Riviera. But the industry did not receive the approval of the conservative and religious sections of society, and was eventually banned in 1946 by presidential decree. The new law went into effect on the same day, giving businesses and employees no time to prepare.Resort casinos were included in a proposed tourism law, and in 2020 they are included in a separate bill: on Integrated Resorts, Brazil legalizes poker and considers it an intellectual game. Thus, poker is able to relieve stress and train thinking.In addition, scientists have also managed to prove the effect of online poker on the cognitive function of the brain. The game of poker is largely dependent on variable factors that the player will have to analyze and take into account when considering their further actions. In other words, poker forces a person to learn something new, which is a kind of training for the brain.

It really puts you in a spot, where you have to make decisions based on some mathematical, psychological factors. And of course processing the factor of luck and the factor of your own moves its also a learning process.
Because money can be involved a game doesn't mean its comes from a bad place. Many people also kill some money into their hobbies, or their jobs, and of course there are always investments which can turn out to be helpful for us or totally awful. Glad they took the time to understand this specific game better.

wavetune · Jan 30, 2023

the judge is so well versed in poker and psychology that he can make such decisions alone?

ADRI7HO · Jan 30, 2023

RoviP said:
Judge José Muiños Piñeiro Filho's decision says that poker is a game of skill and a sport of the mind and not a game of chance. This was found to be the judgement in Sao Paulo back in July 2019.

Good news for Brazil!

CBTH celebrates favourable court decision for poker in Rio de Janeiro

Good news for Brazil and the entire poker community!

I hope that this will be the case everywhere and that there will even be poker at the Olympics ... if "tag" is slowly becoming an Olympic sport 🤣...

valeski 28 · Jan 30, 2023

Totally agree!Congratulations to all Brazilian poker fans.They see this game as a sport.

G0930 · Jan 30, 2023

vardann said:
the judge is so well versed in poker and psychology that he can make such decisions alone?

lol making the final decision is the whole point of a judge xD
but of course he gets feedback from others .
Jury mostly, but in this case its just a simple look at the data. He doesn't even have to like poker, if the data suggests that poker is a game of skill he has to decide accordingly.

wavetune · Jan 30, 2023

G0930 said:
lol making the final decision is the whole point of a judge xD
but of course he gets feedback from others .
Jury mostly, but in this case its just a simple look at the data. He doesn't even have to like poker, if the data suggests that poker is a game of skill he has to decide accordingly.

any ludoman can testify that roulette is a game of skill... but if this decision plays a positive role for the players from Brazil, you can welcome this decision

Chabita03 · Jan 30, 2023

Well that`s a first.

Aballinamion · Feb 13, 2023

RoviP said:
Judge José Muiños Piñeiro Filho's decision says that poker is a game of skill and a sport of the mind and not a game of chance. This was found to be the judgement in Sao Paulo back in July 2019.

Good news for Brazil!

CBTH celebrates favourable court decision for poker in Rio de Janeiro

This is very good to know. In Brazil most of people look at me as a criminal or a crazy man when I say I play poker. Lol
Many people in Brazil believe poker is the same of slot machines and non regulated games that leads to addiction and have no logic.
I got myself tired of trying to explain my friends that poker is a game of mind, a sport like chess and poker has a scientific basis and logic that we cannot find in those pure gambling games that make people crazy and bet their lives off.
But even with this news many people won’t believe poker is serious. What is real funny is that many Brazilians have faith in the lottery games which have absurd negative odds to play (aka Mega Sena, like the American Super Ball).

TeUnit · Feb 13, 2023

Great news for Brazil.

Luvepoker · Feb 13, 2023

Wish we could borrow the this judge and get things fixed here.

Aballinamion · Feb 14, 2023

fundiver199 said:
Congratulations. Presumably this will pave the way for land based casinos offering poker and/or regulated legalized online poker?

Casinos I’m not sure they would allow it. But poker clubs existed before the legal approval.

bruno13xs · Feb 14, 2023

poker has never been a game of chance but a game of probabilities, and I do consider it a sport.

GervaCWB · Feb 24, 2023

is that this Judge has never played online poker! lol

martinoni · Feb 24, 2023

Tks God this is true!

I Live Poker · Feb 24, 2023

GervaCWB said:
is that this Judge has never played online poker! lol

Everything in life is a reflection of your actions, online poker is no different. He will repay the respect and dedication you give him.

Lena M · Feb 25, 2023

RoviP said:
Judge José Muiños Piñeiro Filho's decision says that poker is a game of skill and a sport of the mind and not a game of chance. This was found to be the judgement in Sao Paulo back in July 2019.

Good news for Brazil!

CBTH celebrates favourable court decision for poker in Rio de Janeiro

Hi

I tend to think of poker more as a game of chance than a sport. At least in my understanding, poker is a game of chance. Poker is a strategy, it is a tactic, discipline, skill, experience and patience, however, in the process of the game there are monetary stakes and therefore it is primarily a game of chance.

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