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Rockyfour said:
888 after paying them now $200 this month in rake, I counted all my bonuses/rake back 888 has graciously given me.

They gave me a whole 4$ back, wowwww...

10/10 would play again.

What kind of games are you playing, and where are you finding a better rake deal? If you find a better rake deal elsewhere, why do you still play on 888? Its more usefull, if you guide forum members towards finding good games rather than just moan about the rake on whatever poker site.
 
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I like 888 poker. This is a great place for beginners, there are a lot of freerolls, you can easily build a starting bankroll, a lot of weak players.
 
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I've played on 888 Poker for a significant amount of time on the micro stakes level. I've played so long, that I actually imagined to redeem 10$ cash from their club program.

Anyways, these angle shooters, decided to make you have to wager $350 on Casino Games, to get my $10 bonus, after I paid them $120 in rake (just for this month).

Greasy move from a greasy poker room, avoid at all costs.

As someone else here noted, you may have redeemed the $10 Immediate bonus.

It is pretty misleading though, at first glance it looks like cash, but it's not.
Scrolling down a bit further there is an actual $10 CASH option and I've redeemed it many times and it is actual cash that you can withdraw immediately.

Funny thing is they are both 1000 tokens and apart from it being a mistake I have no idea why anyone would take the immediate bonus (35x wagering requirement) over the cash (no wagering requirement) when they both cost the same number of tokens.

Of course it is possible 888 has changed things since I last redeemed tokens for cash, I often traded them in just before making a withdrawal so there was definitely no wagering requirement, but it has been several months since I last traded any in and 888 has made some terrible changes regarding bonuses recently.
 
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Cash games definitely not worth playing at 888, but there's still great tournaments that they have, yet many people seems have issue with them. They need to take in consideration the bad reviews I guess otherwise more people will have up to their services
 
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How do you get back Rake at 888 Poker? I only started to play there two weeks ago. would be nice if someone could help me.
 
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How do you get back Rake at 888 Poker? I only started to play there two weeks ago. would be nice if someone could help me.

You gather socalled "coins" for the "club", and when you have enough of them, they can be changed for cash. Not quite sure, how the system works today, because we are not part of it here in Sweden due to local regulations. But I got them, when I was living in Denmark, and back then it amounted to something like 2% rakeback in the beginning and then went up to around 10%. There are also "club" freerolls, which you can play, when you reach a certain level.
 
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You gather socalled "coins" for the "club", and when you have enough of them, they can be changed for cash. Not quite sure, how the system works today, because we are not part of it here in Sweden due to local regulations. But I got them, when I was living in Denmark, and back then it amounted to something like 2% rakeback in the beginning and then went up to around 10%. There are also "club" freerolls, which you can play, when you reach a certain level.
So predatory the Swedish governments bans lol.

And you are not missing out on much, you gather some coins, you click gain cash, and then they tell you to get that cash you need to wager an absurd amount of money.

So really all you are doing is losing money.
 
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As someone else here noted, you may have redeemed the $10 Immediate bonus.

It is pretty misleading though, at first glance it looks like cash, but it's not.
Scrolling down a bit further there is an actual $10 CASH option and I've redeemed it many times and it is actual cash that you can withdraw immediately.

Funny thing is they are both 1000 tokens and apart from it being a mistake I have no idea why anyone would take the immediate bonus (35x wagering requirement) over the cash (no wagering requirement) when they both cost the same number of tokens.

Of course it is possible 888 has changed things since I last redeemed tokens for cash, I often traded them in just before making a withdrawal so there was definitely no wagering requirement, but it has been several months since I last traded any in and 888 has made some terrible changes regarding bonuses recently.

Maximum grease. I just redeemed the 10$ immediate bonus, I didn't see another one, there might of been.

If there is another one, it's even more greasy.

888 so ruthless lol. 0/10.
 
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It's a terrible offer, I think that at the moment the best deposit offers are in GGPoker
 
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So predatory the Swedish governments bans lol.

And you are not missing out on much, you gather some coins, you click gain cash, and then they tell you to get that cash you need to wager an absurd amount of money.

So really all you are doing is losing money.

If I remember correctly, I had to wager those 10$ bonuses by playing poker, which came rather naturally, since well, thats what I do :)
 
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If I remember correctly, I had to wager those 10$ bonuses by playing poker, which came rather naturally, since well, thats what I do :)

How they do it, is they say the bonus is for Poker of Casino, but the only way to get the bonus, is if you wager in Casino.

I understand why you would think that though, they design it that way to be deceptive and confusing.

Hence why world governments have to step in and ban them from doing it lol.

It's actually really pathetic, you think they would be making enough money without all these angle shoots on there customers.
 
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I don't bother with the bonus's and stuff,bad idea,,i like 888 poker tho,,great site. :deal: $$$
 
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I like the site 888. But I hear a lot of negative reviews about it. I never win back bonuses, I don't play in the casino at all. I like to play on the tables .
 
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Did someone fail to withdraw their money on 888?
 
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Hence why world governments have to step in and ban them from doing it lol.

The swedish policy on online gambling has absolutely nothing to do with 888 Poker. Its a general policy, which all online casinos wanting a swedish license needs to follow. It basically say, that online casinos are only allowed to offer a limited sign-up bonus, and after that no more bonuses can be offered. The idea behind this is, that bonuses entice people to play more, which is obvously true, because otherwise sites would not offer them.

Its basically very similar to the swedish alcohol policy. Alcohol is only sold here in special government owned outlets, and they never run sales or offer any kind of volume discount. If you buy a whole frame of beer, the price of each can is exactly the same as, if you only buy one can, because the government want to encourage people to drink less.
 
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The swedish policy on online gambling has absolutely nothing to do with 888 Poker. Its a general policy, which all online casinos wanting a swedish license needs to follow. It basically say, that online casinos are only allowed to offer a limited sign-up bonus, and after that no more bonuses can be offered. The idea behind this is, that bonuses entice people to play more, which is obvously true, because otherwise sites would not offer them.

Its basically very similar to the swedish alcohol policy. Alcohol is only sold here in special government owned outlets, and they never run sales or offer any kind of volume discount. If you buy a whole frame of beer, the price of each can is exactly the same as, if you only buy one can, because the government want to encourage people to drink less.

I understand that, that's my whole point though, that 888 Poker and these other sites, are so out of line, that governments need to step in and protect the constituents.

I don't understand why these guys can't just treat there customers fairly and be happy with the copious amounts of money they generate through the rake.

I guess greedy knows no bounds however.
 
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I have seen, you are now posting in the 888 support thread saying, that by requesting you to verify your account before withdrawing, they prevented you from protecting yourself from a gambling problem. But this makes no sense, because like other poker sites 888 offer players the option to self exclude, if they can not control their gambling habits. So if you have a gambling problem, then just use that option, until your account is verified, and you can withdraw your funds.

As for the swedish policy I am just explaining it. I am not particularly happy about it, since it obviously cost me money, that I can no longer recieve rakeback or take part in most promotions. But it is, what it is, and my main focus was always to win money on the tables. Right now 888 is offering 6.000$ worth of "spring" freerolls every day, and I can actually play those, which is at least a little something.
 
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I have seen, you are now posting in the 888 support thread saying, that by requesting you to verify your account before withdrawing, they prevented you from protecting yourself from a gambling problem. But this makes no sense, because like other poker sites 888 offer players the option to self exclude, if they can not control their gambling habits. So if you have a gambling problem, then just use that option, until your account is verified, and you can withdraw your funds.

As for the swedish policy I am just explaining it. I am not particularly happy about it, since it obviously cost me money, that I can no longer recieve rakeback or take part in most promotions. But it is, what it is, and my main focus was always to win money on the tables. Right now 888 is offering 6.000$ worth of "spring" freerolls every day, and I can actually play those, which is at least a little something.

It does make perfect sense,

Explain to me why they would make a system, where some manually flags your account for verification/additional verification, but the customer only receives the notice after they attempt to withdraw.

Why would they do that if they aren't trying to exploit? Explain this to me lol.

Also I paid 888 Poker $300 USD in rake, and they gave me $4 of rakeback/rewards, you aren't missing out on much anyways.

It's a bad site, play on Winamax or something.
 
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Explain to me why they would make a system, where some manually flags your account for verification/additional verification, but the customer only receives the notice after they attempt to withdraw.

Why exactly do you think, this is, what happened? After I made my first deposit on 888 Poker, I relatively quickly got an email with a request to verify my identity. The email informed me, that if I did not comply with this, restrictions might eventually be put on my account, including to put withdrawals on hold. So I naturally send them the documents, they asked for, and I have never faced any problems with withdrawing money from 888 Poker.

Maybe you got the same email but failed to read it or follow the instructions? Regardless what happened I advice you to comply with the request to verify your identity and then move on with your life. Its important to not spend a lot of time and negative energy on a fight, that cant be won.

By the way its certainly nothing new, that poker sites ask customers to verify their identity. Around 10 years ago I briefly played on PartyPoker, and when signing up they informed me, that I had to verify my identity within 30 days. I failed to do this, and then they returned my deposit, kept my winnings and put my account on hold. At first I got a bid mad about this, but really it was my own fault, and it was an insignificant amount of money. So I quickly decided to let it go and chuck it up to experience.
 
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Why exactly do you think, this is, what happened? After I made my first deposit on 888 Poker, I relatively quickly got an email with a request to verify my identity. The email informed me, that if I did not comply with this, restrictions might eventually be put on my account, including to put withdrawals on hold. So I naturally send them the documents, they asked for, and I have never faced any problems with withdrawing money from 888 Poker.

Maybe you got the same email but failed to read it or follow the instructions? Regardless what happened I advice you to comply with the request to verify your identity and then move on with your life. Its important to not spend a lot of time and negative energy on a fight, that cant be won.

By the way its certainly nothing new, that poker sites ask customers to verify their identity. Around 10 years ago I briefly played on PartyPoker, and when signing up they informed me, that I had to verify my identity within 30 days. I failed to do this, and then they returned my deposit, kept my winnings and put my account on hold. At first I got a bid mad about this, but really it was my own fault, and it was an insignificant amount of money. So I quickly decided to let it go and chuck it up to experience.

This is a very frustrating post to me. You said my post didn't make any sense, and then I ask you why would they do this then.

And you still haven't gave an explanation. You just attempted to muddy my post with 2 random stories because you are obviously a fan of 888.

But in reality, 888 is running an angle, and some people fall victim to that angle.

So I decided to make a post explaining this angle, and calling them out on it.

Also I did not get that email, and I'm not ever sure you did. You probably got your account flagged with verification right when you attempted to withdraw, like I did, or maybe this is a new system.

Either way it's designed like that, once again, to keep money on the site longer, get people gambling longer, and exploit people with gambling addictions.

That's the only reason they would design it like this. Unless if you have an explanation on why they would manually flag an account for verification and then only tell the customer once the customer attempts to withdraw, then explain.

If not please stop trying to derail my post with random stories lol.
 
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I still completely fail to see, why its a "angle", that you must verify your identity, before you can withdraw money from a poker site. Its been a standard practice, since the birth of online poker, which both I and others have explained to you already. Just get it done and move on with your life.
 
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Why exactly do you think, this is, what happened? After I made my first deposit on 888 Poker, I relatively quickly got an email with a request to verify my identity. The email informed me, that if I did not comply with this, restrictions might eventually be put on my account, including to put withdrawals on hold. So I naturally send them the documents, they asked for, and I have never faced any problems with withdrawing money from 888 Poker.

Maybe you got the same email but failed to read it or follow the instructions? Regardless what happened I advice you to comply with the request to verify your identity and then move on with your life. Its important to not spend a lot of time and negative energy on a fight, that cant be won.

By the way its certainly nothing new, that poker sites ask customers to verify their identity. Around 10 years ago I briefly played on PartyPoker, and when signing up they informed me, that I had to verify my identity within 30 days. I failed to do this, and then they returned my deposit, kept my winnings and put my account on hold. At first I got a bid mad about this, but really it was my own fault, and it was an insignificant amount of money. So I quickly decided to let it go and chuck it up to experience.

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I still completely fail to see, why its a "angle", that you must verify your identity, before you can withdraw money from a poker site. Its been a standard practice, since the birth of online poker, which both I and others have explained to you already. Just get it done and move on with your life.

It's not an angle to ask someone to verify, it's an angle to flag some for verification, and then not tell them until they try to withdraw.

The only reason someone would do this, is to try and keep the money on the site a little bit longer, and therefore the customer potentially gambling a little bit longer.

This obviously exploits people who are prone to gambling addiction, as it makes it harder to stop gambling when they stop you from withdrawing. It puts doubt in your mind if they are even going to pay you your money, which causes stress, and might cause someone to want to gamble to escape this stress. Partaking in this, although feels like a way to escape the stress, will most likely become an avenue for even greater stress, as you are most likely (with such a low % of winning players), to lose even more money, waste more time, and become more frustrated.

It's very predatorily, nothing wrong with verifying people, but it is wrong to flag someone for verification, and then not tell them until they try to withdraw.

Also I asked chat support to try and proactively make sure I was good to go with withdrawing and they assured me I was, and no additional documents were necessary, until I tried withdrawing, then all of a sudden the story changed.

Very predatory.

Just because you are not the personality type this angle exploits, doesn't mean it's not an exploit or angle.
 
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I think it,s better to redeem your golden tickets for a tickets for the tournaments. If you will win something from this tickets, all your winnings will be cash and you can do with this money everything that you want.
 
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I think it,s better to redeem your golden tickets for a tickets for the tournaments. If you will win something from this tickets, all your winnings will be cash and you can do with this money everything that you want.

And as others have explained and showed with a screenshot from the 888 poker client, you can also simply redeem cash instead of redeeming a bonus, that must be wagered. The only reason, why anyone would choose the bonus, is because they did not understand the system.

And no I am not saying, that its great, that 888 Poker gives players the option to choose something, which is clearly worse than cash. But making a big fuss out of it is like saying, you wont fly with a certain airline, because they charge you extra for a cup of coffee, even if the ticket itself is only 20$ ;)
 
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And as others have explained and showed with a screenshot from the 888 poker client, you can also simply redeem cash instead of redeeming a bonus, that must be wagered. The only reason, why anyone would choose the bonus, is because they did not understand the system.

And no I am not saying, that its great, that 888 Poker gives players the option to choose something, which is clearly worse than cash. But making a big fuss out of it is like saying, you wont fly with a certain airline, because they charge you extra for a cup of coffee, even if the ticket itself is only 20$ ;)
888 is a joke, I play on 888 for almost a whole month they give me $4 of rakeback after paying $300 in rake, I play on PartyPoker for 1hour, and already they have given me $8 in rakeback.

And 888 charges more rake lol.
 
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