Americas Cardroom

0546474 · Dec 15, 2020

Not a bad poker room, I like it !!!

PackinPat · Dec 15, 2020

It runs good. Then bad just like in life. ACR been good to me over the long haul

Dorugremon · Dec 15, 2020

A3200304 said:
What is your favorite poker room and why?

I favor Seals with Clubs. It's one of the few Linux friendly rooms, and works especially well with the Opera browser. The main downsides are that SwC makes you gamble twice: once on your cards, and again on the value of Bitcoin as each chip is worth 1E-6 Bitcoin. You need to watch Bitcoin like a hawk, lest Bitcoin takes a dive and wipes out your winnings. Also, you can't upload avatars, and the stock ones suck. Other than that, I like it.

Maxmustdie 2 minutes ago on the bubble i shoved JJ man hit cal with 59
is there an idiot who calls with 59?

Loads of them. Don't ask me why fish do stuff like this. I gave up on trying to figure out why fish do the things they do. Otherwise, I'd drive myself nuts.

Maxmustdie i just lost preflop AA <9Q in $3.3 tournament and this was my last tournament in this scam room
i have no more strength

Yeah? So? Equilab says:

Equity Win Tie
MP2 84.37% 84.23% 0.14% { AdAs }
MP3 15.63% 15.49% 0.14% { Qc9h }

Aces still lose against a "quinine" over 15 times out of 100 plays: it's not exactly impossible. SUX when it happens, but you're still WAY ahead, getting even money on the proposition.

Equity Win Tie
MP2 87.42% 87.24% 0.18% { AdAs }
MP3 12.58% 12.40% 0.18% { 7c2h }

Even a lousy "Beer Hand" still has better than 12% equity against Pocket Rockets. Your "rockets" are fated to crash and burn sometimes. SUX when it happens, but you at least know you got the money in good. Let these fish keep playing that way, and you'll get it back, and with interest, sooner or later.

rmcmullen2003 · Dec 15, 2020

Even a lousy "Beer Hand" still has better than 12% equity against Pocket Rockets. Your "rockets" are fated to crash and burn sometimes. SUX when it happens said:
That is a good perspective and attitude to have towards an unfortunate and frustrating scenario. It took me a long time to be able to brush hands like that off. That is what you have to do though and keep on grinding.

Ice Wolf · Dec 15, 2020

Dorugremon said:
Let these fish keep playing that way, and you'll get it back, and with interest, sooner or later.

Sadly I am seriously starting to doubt that on WPN. I have seen way too many one out hands hit on the turn and river there lately to trust the software. I know people are going to say "variance" and the like but it just doesn't seem like variance anymore as often as it happens. Feels like the board is just set up to get more people to bet big to generate rake or so that people can be knocked out of tournaments early so that they don't drag on. I am probably wrong but I see that type of hand so incredibly often even in back, to back, to back hands I simply don't trust it being completely random.

Adi8877 · Dec 16, 2020

Just for clearity....
This 'review' about bots on ACR, even they are on every network, at least ACR acknowledge it. I read comments, even advertisments, that most of the networks just send a 'friendly email' if they catch someone with bots.....
Here is the feedback, probably from one of the brazilian, portugase 'player', as even on micro some of them at least 'strange'...:

"
sergio – March 7, 2019

MTT Monster profile has killed the strongest players on ACR these days.
In 6/6 Venom steps to 5 seat at 5 Milion MTT twice reach the 5/6 step ($ 250 buy-in) and in the last time reached the 6/6 step ($ 630 buy-in) placing in first place without any kind of assistance and winning a ticket for the 5Milion Dollars next July (2650$ buy in).
A very strong tight-loose profile that really surprised everyone.
Fantastic.
"

That means, even on the biggest Venoms are loaded with bots....
I could find pretty fast the same about all poker rooms, the only difference the rest like pokerstars, hide it, never make refunds, public if they caught one, i have doubt that they take down one ever......

The above 'feedback' explains me, why was so hard the Venom sats, never could reach the last level.... even once i played the sats for 4 months, 6 days a week, and i am profitable anyway....

I do not want to advertise any, as i hate them, dont use it, so i dont write the 'product' name - even i got targeted with the human verification, when i had long run winning series, when i wasn't effected by bots, and by the amazing RNG, what somehow can make rivering me out series with few cards months long... like on pokerstars, what i never get back....

people are people....

and i trust in the poker, my knowledge of basic count, knowing variance, possibility numbers, that is not me, even next to these criminal activities what are tolerated, i can be a small winning one.... but come on, what can happen, that happens.... and basically we talk about money... how everywhere in the world, nothing else counts, and humanoids doo everything for it, if they earn,win enough they can get away with anything, without consequences....

Ice Wolf · Dec 16, 2020

Adi8877 said:
and i trust in the poker, my knowledge of basic count, knowing variance, possibility numbers, that is not me, even next to these criminal activities what are tolerated, i can be a small winning one.... but come on, what can happen, that happens.... and basically we talk about money... how everywhere in the world, nothing else counts, and humanoids doo everything for it, if they earn,win enough they can get away with anything, without consequences....

The problem is not what can happen, happens, the problem is who it consistently happens for. The variance isn't true variance if it leans extremely hard in two specific ways. Not even sure you can call it variance at that point. When people come on here and consistently say the exact same thing, can people really continue to say there is nothing to it?

Costy69 · Dec 17, 2020

Americas Cardroom is trash. Home of the bots and hackers that cheat the system. I heard so many times from so many people dont even try to play the cash games. Known for cheaters. I dont suggest playing on there but most people gotta learn for them selves.

Adi8877 · Dec 17, 2020

Ice Wolf said:
The problem is not what can happen, happens, the problem is who it consistently happens for. The variance isn't true variance if it leans extremely hard in two specific ways. Not even sure you can call it variance at that point. When people come on here and consistently say the exact same thing, can people really continue to say there is nothing to it?

Yes man, in online poker you must forget variance, as many good player reccomend, or left online poker, as it is not compareable with reality... I could write the 10k+ hands proofs about it for days here, what somehow always under 10-20% the real variance, what is insane. The worst room for me from this point of viee definitely the pokerstars...
But what happened on the acr in the last half year, even i profitable, as i know i must count with this, too, is getting similar sick how it was ps, before i left forever...

Maxmustdie · Dec 23, 2020

i hate this scam room
preflop
i knew 100% that the river would be T

Maxmustdie · Dec 23, 2020

scam
preflop

Ice Wolf · Dec 23, 2020

HERE IS A WARNING FOR ANYONE LOOKING TO DEPOSIT ON ANY WPN SITE: DONT! People do not deposit on a site before you test out the waters first. I have no idea how people can play poker on here for a few weeks and go for a single second "yeah this is legit." The RNG on this software is a HUGE JOKE! It protects idiot players and feeds them miracle hands on bingo plays, runner runners, rewarding calling stations with one and two outs on the river but hell as long as they keep generating these guys are going to keep feeding them. It is the constant, not the hands holding up. The variance is the percentages coming close to holding up as much as they should, that is the variance here. THESE GUYS CLAIMING FOR ONE SECOND THAT THEY HAVE A PROVEN RNG IS THE SINGLE MOST LAUGHABLE THING IN ONLINE POKER.

Maxmustdie · Dec 28, 2020

SCAM ROOM WITH BOTS

Maxmustdie · Dec 28, 2020

3 places before prizes
what a scam is this
no words

Maxmustdie · Jan 19, 2021

top4 preflop
why you shouldn't make a deposit to this scam room
you will see this shit every day
a person or a bot who randomly presses buttons wins the tournament

MsUniverse · Jan 19, 2021

I hope you have already made a deposit at PokerStars, and now you are checking a new room

coolbrees 9 · Jan 19, 2021

i wish pokerstars was still open to americans, most legitmate of all the poker rooms and i almost played all of em including full tilt ultimate bet absolute poker bodog!

karl coakley · Jan 19, 2021

Most ACR games and tournaments are on the softer side. Never had a problem with deposits or withdrawal. It's a good solid poker room that has been around a while.

Ice Wolf · Jan 19, 2021

I need help from some of my foreign players because I am sick and tired of the Number Generator on WPN. No way in hell will I ever again attach the word random in front of those other two words. I am sick of the damn coolers, full houses on the flop or full houses on 5th street and being run down by dumbasses who either jam the flop with something like AK or just fish like hell with a pair when I have trips showing in STUD. WPN just rewards these dumbass players by saying "thank you for the stupidity and the rake generation here is your ridiculously low percentage win." It's not like this shit happens on occasion either. I will say it agin DON'T DEPOSIT on this joke software. Are any of the other sites this consistently bad? I am not allowed to build up any type of bankroll on WPN because flopping the nuts is nothing but a trap here.

JT Olson · Jan 19, 2021

karl coakley said:
Most ACR games and tournaments are on the softer side. Never had a problem with deposits or withdrawal. It's a good solid poker room that has been around a while.

That's my experience on ACR as well.

BriceNice · Jan 19, 2021

Maxmustdie said:
top4 preflop
why you shouldn't make a deposit to this scam room
you will see this shit every day
a person or a bot who randomly presses buttons wins the tournament

I dont know, a couple more of these and you might have a compelling argument.

amatola · Jan 19, 2021

top4 preflop
why you shouldn't make a deposit to this scam room
you will see this shit every day
a person or a bot who randomly presses buttons wins the tournament

you still playing on coinpoker? Played as dwightshrute on there - pretty much started my bankroll on there but because of their terrible micro MTT schedule - withdrew and started on other sites. We used to run into each other alot!

Bambini7777 · Jan 20, 2021

Ice Wolf said:
Sadly I am seriously starting to doubt that on WPN. I have seen way too many one out hands hit on the turn and river there lately to trust the software. I know people are going to say "variance" and the like but it just doesn't seem like variance anymore as often as it happens. Feels like the board is just set up to get more people to bet big to generate rake or so that people can be knocked out of tournaments early so that they don't drag on. I am probably wrong but I see that type of hand so incredibly often even in back, to back, to back hands I simply don't trust it being completely random.

friend, what if I tell you that WPN was not certified for a random number generator, when I threatened them with a court, the certification immediately appeared, and moreover, retroactively, for a long time I do not trust this network for good reason; numerous players call this network scammers. and even certification does not give a guarantee:smile:

Sunz of Beaches · Jan 20, 2021

Bambini7777 said:
friend, what if I tell you that WPN was not certified for a random number generator, when I threatened them with a court, the certification immediately appeared, and moreover, retroactively, for a long time I do not trust this network for good reason; numerous players call this network scammers. and even certification does not give a guarantee:smile:

yeah dude i am sure that wpn was scared as hell because you threatened them with court. work on your own game and dont blame others is my tip for you right here. if you dont like them, you are welcome to play somewhere else.

Bambini7777 · Jan 20, 2021

nairolph87 said:
yeah dude i am sure that wpn was scared as hell because you threatened them with court. work on your own game and dont blame others is my tip for you right here. if you dont like them, you are welcome to play somewhere else.

lol I don't seem to play there, but I watch you only skate freerolls and according to your statistics, it's not for you to tell me about improving the game!
and yes, not trusting this office is everyone's business, and I have all the correspondence with the WPN and with the office that issues certification.
it doesn't matter, everyone decides where to play, and professional people in the poker industry who have won quite a few trophies in poker do not respond well to WPN

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