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Is there any advice that someone can give me about profiting from freerolls on ACR? Been playing there for a long time but I haven't been getting ITM lately (8 months) and I'm starting to get disappointed. I came from the old train o thought "tight is right" growing up but with everyone just throwing in their chips is it really worth playing tight. The top 10 normally pays and I've been getting spots either busting out way early and my highest being 47th place. Any suggestions that can help me start profiting from these again? Preferably someone who's been cashing lately?:confused:
 
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I just recently took 6th in the $10 on demand on ACR. The keys is to pick your spots, especially early on. Avoid the multi-way all-ins unless you've got a premium hand. From there, once you've got a stack, it's like any other game. Open your range a bit more and more as you progress, but do NOT make donk calls.

It's easy to get bored because the game's gonna last a few hours to make it to the top 10. In fact, boredom is probably the number one enemy for these games, because the pay is so low... it's easy just to be like, "meh, doesn't matter."

Anyway, you still want to play your hands correctly and try to read your opponents as best you can.
 
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I just recently took 6th in the $10 on demand on ACR. The keys is to pick your spots, especially early on. Avoid the multi-way all-ins unless you've got a premium hand. From there, once you've got a stack, it's like any other game. Open your range a bit more and more as you progress, but do NOT make donk calls.

It's easy to get bored because the game's gonna last a few hours to make it to the top 10. In fact, boredom is probably the number one enemy for these games, because the pay is so low... it's easy just to be like, "meh, doesn't matter."

Anyway, you still want to play your hands correctly and try to read your opponents as best you can.


Thank you for the reply. I'm going to give it a shot. Hopefully keeping that in the back of my mind it'll help me progress through them on my journey to build a roll.
 
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As someone before me said, be very careful early on. There are usually all in's non stop for awhile. Pockets are good but someone usually will hit straight, flush, or a lucky 2 pair. I like to let the play come to me. If I have a pair or something like Ak or 10 9 I will only call blinds early on. If someone after me goes all in I'm out. If it makes it to the flop I can play from there. maybe catch something good, but still play with caution until you know you hit it. Survive the early rounds and don't worry about the average chip stack. If you get lucky and get early leads or a big chip stack play a little tighter. When it starts getting closer to the bubble people tent to fold more quickly. This is your chance to take advantage of your good hands and steal a few blinds when the blinds are worth it. Also if you stay conservative, there will be people who try to bluff you off, so if you catch something good they will play right into your trap. Patience is the number 1 thing. Good luck to you.
 
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As someone before me said, be very careful early on. There are usually all in's non stop for awhile. Pockets are good but someone usually will hit straight, flush, or a lucky 2 pair. I like to let the play come to me. If I have a pair or something like Ak or 10 9 I will only call blinds early on. If someone after me goes all in I'm out. If it makes it to the flop I can play from there. maybe catch something good, but still play with caution until you know you hit it. Survive the early rounds and don't worry about the average chip stack. If you get lucky and get early leads or a big chip stack play a little tighter. When it starts getting closer to the bubble people tent to fold more quickly. This is your chance to take advantage of your good hands and steal a few blinds when the blinds are worth it. Also if you stay conservative, there will be people who try to bluff you off, so if you catch something good they will play right into your trap. Patience is the number 1 thing. Good luck to you.

Well put, digdug. The point about playing the blinds is key, too. I try not to commit to any more than 4 times the BB, and it all depends on my hand and position. Also, I'm less likely to defend my blinds against anything too big in the early stages. I'll let a lot of them go if I'm really trying to survive. When I'm really trying at these games, I actually enjoy the challenge in surviving, especially since we only get 1500 chips to start. :D
 
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I freeroll quite a bit there and it seems that you have to look at a lot of flops as they never fold. Hope to hit something on the flop so you can shove back to them..Good Luck!

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Maybe just a bad run...

I still think tight is right with some good aggression mixed in your best spots. Freerolling is really a grind now and has been for some time. If it wasn't for a few sites like Cards Chat that still put up some good private games... freerolls are pretty much a dead end for players from the United States. The prize pools are awful. The decent games are few and far between and the freerollers who are still at it (huge amounts of players have left the game since the law change and black friday) are playing for peanuts. In the old days freerolling was profitable even for an average player. Games were everywhere day and night and the prize pools were multiple times better. I remember having 47 sites on my computer during the boom times. lol $500 -$2000 freerolls were the norm along with $5000-$10000 games every weekend. Along with tons of private forums offering games that have all gone under.

Hang in there and hopefully, things change for you and you can build a roll with the good games this site and a few others offer when meeting the requirements. Good luck going forward.
 
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My advice is play a lot. The more ACR freerolls I play, the more I make the top 10.
 
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I am having the same on coral poker and I am convinced it is because I don't deposit. every time I get all in I lose to absolute garbage. I think its rigged
 
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Look forward to playing the $100 daily CC freeroll, on ACR. That's the best advice you will hear. That $10 freeroll is tough.
 
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Good Luck

I totally hear ya. You play tight and raise with pocket kings and slappy with 3A off suit goes all in, or the famous 83 offsuit magic full house. Thats my favorite. I'd say keep playin tight and flash a little looseness here and there. Wait out the donkey raisers and keep chat off, lol. Those are my tidbits of advice if you like. Also, f-it, it's mostly for fun. None of us are getting rich yet. Hang in there buddy.
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Is there any advice that someone can give me about profiting from freerolls on ACR? Been playing there for a long time but I haven't been getting ITM lately (8 months) and I'm starting to get disappointed. I came from the old train o thought "tight is right" growing up but with everyone just throwing in their chips is it really worth playing tight. The top 10 normally pays and I've been getting spots either busting out way early and my highest being 47th place. Any suggestions that can help me start profiting from these again? Preferably someone who's been cashing lately?:confused:
 
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Great encouraging advice on here. :)

I certainly agree that playing tight in Freerolls is optimal strategy. Once you get deep, the play transitions more akin to a real money MTT. This is your opportunity to develop your own personal style to your play. You can figure out ways to steal blinds/pick spots/take advantage of other players weaknesses. Find their weaknesses and exploit them.

Have fun!
 
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Is there any advice that someone can give me about profiting from freerolls on ACR? Been playing there for a long time but I haven't been getting ITM lately (8 months) and I'm starting to get disappointed. I came from the old train o thought "tight is right" growing up but with everyone just throwing in their chips is it really worth playing tight. The top 10 normally pays and I've been getting spots either busting out way early and my highest being 47th place. Any suggestions that can help me start profiting from these again? Preferably someone who's been cashing lately?:confused:


Just my thoughts. Volume is the number one thing that will get you ahead in profiting in the freerolls. Reg for them the second they pop up, and gamble on marginal hands to build a stack. Hopefully you will have 3 or 4 tables with a nice size stack, then you start playing your normal game midway/deep in each of them.
 
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Freerolls are not exactly free. They cost you your tIme. It's possible to make a small profit off freerolls if you play enough of them but with the amount of tIme you would have to put in you would be lucky to profit a few cents per hour. Instead of spending the next few days, weeks or months trying to scrap up pennies you would be much better off if you investees that time into studying and improving your poker skills. Imagine if you spent an hour or two each day working towards becoming a better player than you would eventually be able to take your new found skills to some of the cash tables and build up a nice little bankroll for yourself. The other problem with freerolls is that no matter how much you play you will have a lot of trouble developing your poker skills and you'll most likely start picking up some of the bad habits that are frequently on display at those tables.
 
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Freerolls are not exactly free. They cost you your tIme. It's possible to make a small profit off freerolls if you play enough of them but with the amount of tIme you would have to put in you would be lucky to profit a few cents per hour. Instead of spending the next few days, weeks or months trying to scrap up pennies you would be much better off if you investees that time into studying and improving your poker skills. Imagine if you spent an hour or two each day working towards becoming a better player than you would eventually be able to take your new found skills to some of the cash tables and build up a nice little bankroll for yourself. The other problem with freerolls is that no matter how much you play you will have a lot of trouble developing your poker skills and you'll most likely start picking up some of the bad habits that are frequently on display at those tables.
A counter-argument to this is that freerolls may be saving players a lot of money they would otherwise lose on normal pay tournaments, if they don't know what they are doing or are incapable of being a winning player. So in this scenario, which is true for about 70 percent of people, freerolls will not only be profitable by a small amount some of the time but will also save the opportunity cost of buy-ins all of the time. Then, at some point, those freeroll earnings can be applied towards buying tickets or just cashed out.
 
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Is there any advice that someone can give me about profiting from freerolls on ACR? Been playing there for a long time but I haven't been getting ITM lately (8 months) and I'm starting to get disappointed. I came from the old train o thought "tight is right" growing up but with everyone just throwing in their chips is it really worth playing tight. The top 10 normally pays and I've been getting spots either busting out way early and my highest being 47th place. Any suggestions that can help me start profiting from these again? Preferably someone who's been cashing lately?:confused:
Don't ask me I haven't cashed out in one for more than a buck or 2 in a while but cashed in the $3.3 $100 added there my first time playing in it this sunday. What's funny is i did way better there at the beginning of the yr when i didn't know anything and constantly shoved. I still do better (meaning cash out for a buck or 2) when i don't care and just push everyone off their 1 pr and somehow get lucky n hit when i do get called. But that only works for so long.
 
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These tournaments are perfect to test a poker bot
 
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Is there any advice that someone can give me about profiting from freerolls on ACR? Any suggestions that can help me start profiting from these again? Preferably someone who's been cashing lately?:confused:

Fishmasterbaiter said:
Wait out the donkey raisers and keep chat off, lol.
Solid advice - but having chat off isn't an issue on ACR - the damn chat doesn't work! Unfortunately

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As someone before me said, be very careful early on. There are usually all in's non stop for awhile. I like to let the play come to me. If I have a pair or something like Ak or 10 9 I will only call blinds early on. If someone after me goes all in I'm out. If it makes it to the flop I can play from there. maybe catch something good, but still play with caution until you know you hit it. Survive the early rounds and don't worry about the average chip stack. If you get lucky and get early leads or a big chip stack play a little tighter. When it starts getting closer to the bubble people tent to fold more quickly. This is your chance to take advantage of your good hands and steal a few blinds when the blinds are worth it. Also if you stay conservative, there will be people who try to bluff you off, so if you catch something good they will play right into your trap. Patience is the number 1 thing. Good luck to you.

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I just recently took 6th in the $10 on demand on ACR. The keys is to pick your spots, especially early on. Avoid the multi-way all-ins unless you've got a premium hand. From there, once you've got a stack, it's like any other game. Open your range a bit more and more as you progress, but do NOT make donk calls.
It's easy to get bored because the game's gonna last a few hours to make it to the top 10. In fact, boredom is probably the number one enemy for these games, because the pay is so low... it's easy just to be like, "meh, doesn't matter."
Anyway, you still want to play your hands correctly and try to read your opponents as best you can.

Solid advice from all the above quoted posters.
Just to reiterate and add - early on (first 20-30 minutes) only call shoves with premium hands QQ+ Half the field is shoving any Ace, any pocket pair 22+, and any two broadway cards.
The only exception I will make to this rule is if I have a strong Ace in the blinds and have one LP shove.

TAKE COPIOUS NOTES. :) The reg freerollers have EXTREME tendencies and are easy to outplay once you have learned what they do every time they get an Ace.

Shoving all-in is a donk move without premium holdings - however it is also used strategically to intimidate. Although this tactic (imo) is totally reckless - it works. I don't employ it without having +EV vs the table/opponents, however after learning the player tendencies - making calls vs certain opponents is a lot easier.

I use min-raise and punish limpers with 3bets if I have the stack to do so.
Limpers are playing rag Ace, any two suited or any single broadway from any position.
Don't worry about trappers until the field falls below 70-80 players.

There will always be 1-2 luckboxes that have 6-8x average stack that you have witnessed shoving with 9/3 s and pocket 33s and decimating premium holdings. Take advantage of those players - they are great at giving away chips - after they have lucked into a large stack.

Don't get flustered if you loose early - A LOT OF PLAYERS rely exclusively on luck playing these events - they can be dominated by playing strong later - but busting early is just part of the game.

Strongly agree with bellicoso regarding tedius boredom. It's good to have 1-2 other events open at the same time, although I really don't experience this as I'm always looking for edges by watching how players play.

Heresthecooler said:
Look forward to playing the $100 daily CC freeroll, on ACR. That's the best advice you will hear. That $10 freeroll is tough.
You should notice - certain players play the same in CC freerolls as they do in those OD freerolls. Take notes - those players can be a real good source of chips. :)

This is the way

I have been sending emails to ACR periodically to request they re-introduce the freeroll leader board - to make them more meaningful. There used to be a leader board - where the top 10 qualified for a buyin event each week, and the top finisher of the week qualified for a much more lucrative event (sit n crush?).
It is unfortunate they discontinued the freeroll leader board - because now there is barely any incentive to play them.
I think if I keep pestering them - they will relent and reinstate it. :)
 
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Solid advice - but having chat off isn't an issue on ACR - the damn chat doesn't work! Unfortunately





Solid advice from all the above quoted posters.
Just to reiterate and add - early on (first 20-30 minutes) only call shoves with premium hands QQ+ Half the field is shoving any Ace, any pocket pair 22+, and any two broadway cards.
The only exception I will make to this rule is if I have a strong Ace in the blinds and have one LP shove.

TAKE COPIOUS NOTES. :) The reg freerollers have EXTREME tendencies and are easy to outplay once you have learned what they do every time they get an Ace.

Shoving all-in is a donk move without premium holdings - however it is also used strategically to intimidate. Although this tactic (imo) is totally reckless - it works. I don't employ it without having +EV vs the table/opponents, however after learning the player tendencies - making calls vs certain opponents is a lot easier.

I use min-raise and punish limpers with 3bets if I have the stack to do so.
Limpers are playing rag Ace, any two suited or any single broadway from any position.
Don't worry about trappers until the field falls below 70-80 players.

There will always be 1-2 luckboxes that have 6-8x average stack that you have witnessed shoving with 9/3 s and pocket 33s and decimating premium holdings. Take advantage of those players - they are great at giving away chips - after they have lucked into a large stack.

Don't get flustered if you loose early - A LOT OF PLAYERS rely exclusively on luck playing these events - they can be dominated by playing strong later - but busting early is just part of the game.

Strongly agree with bellicoso regarding tedius boredom. It's good to have 1-2 other events open at the same time, although I really don't experience this as I'm always looking for edges by watching how players play.


You should notice - certain players play the same in CC freerolls as they do in those OD freerolls. Take notes - those players can be a real good source of chips. :)

This is the way

I have been sending emails to ACR periodically to request they re-introduce the freeroll leader board - to make them more meaningful. There used to be a leader board - where the top 10 qualified for a buyin event each week, and the top finisher of the week qualified for a much more lucrative event (sit n crush?).
It is unfortunate they discontinued the freeroll leader board - because now there is barely any incentive to play them.
I think if I keep pestering them - they will relent and reinstate it. :)



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I feel your pain. People just call you down with anything now a days. Pretty hard to play any tight poker. Times are changeing i guess.
 
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I think first let the game rest for a few weeks.You probably just need some rest, then try again if you still don't succeed, you need to change something. Some tutorial videos can help!
 
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I agree that poker has changed. A lot more calling stations out there. I feel that when free rolling one should expect a larger amount of loose play, as that players have no skin in the game. If they win its great, if not. Costs them nothing. Patience is the only way and be prepared to take the bad beats with a smile. Good luck
 
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About a month or 2 ago i was playing them. never finished in the money but once a day id finish 11 to 15th. Not bad for 600 player fields but still would have liked a cash or 2
I do think these freeroll are a luck fest and if you play your run at the right time. Some of us TAG players have a hard playing those runs when you dont play too many low hands altho if i get a large stack i will call with broader ranger especially on short stacks.
As said tho you have to get lucky early on and build on that
 
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Been playing periodically with no cashes. I find myself just playing whatever two cards and became not interested. Today I am bored and going to try to grind these all day and see what kind of money we can make if any.. Building a early stack in theses seem to be very key.
 
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I cant play on ACR I have dollars in there but they have locked my account. every time I try and log in it asks for my email for verification then says it has sent a mail. the mail takes at least 10 minutes to arrive and by the time it comes the link has expired. I had this out with support and they are useless. I think the site is a rip off they are holding my bucks and refusing me to access them
 
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