My MIL thinks Pokerstars is rigged, but not 888

Yanko57 · Jan 23, 2019

First of all, this is not an affirmation I would say myself. My mother-in-law is saying it. Constantly.

I try so hard to convince her that all sites have the same laws, the same rules to follow, she just stays stubborn as hell. Pokerstars is against her...

She doesn't realize that she makes money 888 exclusively by playing the freerolls and that's why her account never goes to 0$. Sometimes she wins a 1$ S&G (9 players) on 888 PROVING me that she couldn't do that on Pokerstars so it's rigged.

Tell me what should I do...

ChickenArise · Jan 23, 2019

Trying to be objective and not biased to either side. First thing to analyze is how large are the fields are when compared.

619Leafs · Jan 23, 2019

Most to all poker rooms have similiar technology in terms of random assortment of cards.

In my experience I have tried both poker rooms and both have the same gut wrenching bad beats.

I'm with 888 and bad beat theorys of rigging are just like pokerstars. They end up equally having bad beats.

whosdaboss25 · Jan 23, 2019

They both have random card generators and they both deal hundreds of hands per hour so you can get the same bad beats on both of the sites equally in a day there is no diference between either site excepet one may have went online sooner then the other
dealing more hands than the other did being the only difference than the other site.

puzzlefish · Jan 23, 2019

Both Stars and 888 have exploitable RNGs. Stars doesn't play the same as 888, but they are very similar. You could say Stars's RNG is more "saucy" or treacherous than 888's. But if you put in the work, you can find the weaknesses in the pseudo-randomness of each.

forest_leaves · Jan 24, 2019

puzzlefish said:
Both Stars and 888 have exploitable RNGs. Stars doesn't play the same as 888, but they are very similar. You could say Stars's RNG is more "saucy" or treacherous than 888's. But if you put in the work, you can find the weaknesses in the pseudo-randomness of each.

Whoa, what kind of super computer do you need to have as a brain to exploit this,

Seriously guys both pokerstars and 888poker is highly unlikely to be rigged, even if it is why would they rig such low stakes against anybody for anyone, and any decent RNG is probably never exploitable

FanatsLV · Jan 24, 2019

It's easy just in pokerstars are better players. Because pokerstars don't give as much freerolls and chace of free money that easy all week players are moving to other sites like 888 where are much more promotions and free money what is reason why it's easier for her to play there.

Xesh · Jan 24, 2019

I think the same

puzzlefish · Jan 24, 2019

forest_leaves said:
Whoa, what kind of super computer do you need to have as a brain to exploit this,

Seriously guys both pokerstars and 888poker is highly unlikely to be rigged, even if it is why would they rig such low stakes against anybody for anyone, and any decent RNG is probably never exploitable

It's the same at all stakes. And surprisingly it is easier to exploit than you might think without complex thinking, although having a computer assisting you would help.

weezy1312 · Jan 24, 2019

888 field is softer that's why many people get this feeling.

pjokay · Jan 24, 2019

Without investing more she will never make the same out of freeroll on Stars as they are throwing constant no need to deposit no need to make contribution freerolls. 888 has loads of these such as spin to enter. Starts you need to really accumulate chests though entering paid tournaments to get a lot of the freerolls.

Stars also get a lot more players in general so much larger fields making it more difficult to get to final tables. I also think the play is generally harder on stars. Some of making profit is about picking the right game for you. I like large multi table tournaments but they are a lot harder to final tables on.

5pAce_C0wb0y · Jan 24, 2019

888 has a much softer field sometimes you get massively sucked out on, on the river but that happens everywhere. I've seen players call down 3 streets of action with ace high on 888. It's like more people play on 888 to have a laugh and more play on pokerstars to play poker.

Peppinotom · Jan 24, 2019

Just ask her a simple question: What does rigged mean? If she loses a leading hand, it is rigged, and if she wins it is as it has to be?
What about the other players in the hand she wins? Are they being rigged? When she plays KT flop comes AQ and she beats AQs, because she KNEW, she would make a straight?
:nurse:

milka1605 · Jan 24, 2019

Sometimes there are cases of delivery of cards out of the ordinary. Such as three consecutive pocket AA or two consecutive two cards are the same. It seems that the delivery of cards is not very random.

terryk · Jan 24, 2019

puzzlefish said:
It's the same at all stakes. And surprisingly it is easier to exploit than you might think without complex thinking, although having a computer assisting you would help.

maybe you can make a thread and dazzle us with your exploits? Help us out man!

Yanko57 · Jan 24, 2019

terryk said:
maybe you can make a thread and dazzle us with your exploits? Help us out man!

I'd be following that too and become rich...

And I would thank my mother-in-law for making me start this thread!

ChickenArise · Jan 24, 2019

on Stars if the only way you can win is runner runner, go for it, no matter what the odds say, you are the favorite.

terryk · Jan 24, 2019

Puzzlefish's stats for Pokerstars----- Total winnings! (drumroll plz) $1.10! :hmmmm:

Peppinotom · Jan 24, 2019

terryk said:
Puzzlefish's stats for Pokerstars----- Total winnings! (drumroll plz) $1.10! :hmmmm:

OMG, If I only had 10% of that...:thefinger

Serjo600 · Jan 24, 2019

There is an opinion that the determining factor in the luck of the player in the poker room is his investment. That is, I think if you thoroughly approach the case and observe the bankroll management you will not have such questions why you have a zero balance. My first cash out from PokerStars was the $100 by investing $10, and then only to withdraw money. I think it's fundamental to the poker room that you don't Rob it. At the same time, once a long time ago I tried to play bankroll and even beat NL2. But then it did not go, as the interest in the game of hold'em was gone. The field is not what it used to be. Another thing is a live game where you are almost on a par with everyone.

PeedroZack · Jan 24, 2019

sometimes I thunk the same

puzzlefish · Jan 24, 2019

terryk said:
Puzzlefish's stats for Pokerstars----- Total winnings! (drumroll plz) $1.10! :hmmmm:

Yeah guys, I have barely any winnings in Stars don't listen to anything I have to say. All the cards fall equally for everyone and it's alllllllll completely random.

puzzlefish · Jan 24, 2019

terryk said:
maybe you can make a thread and dazzle us with your exploits? Help us out man!

Here's a standing offer for you Terry. Send me one of your Mini Sunday Millions hand histories and I'll mark out the patterns.

terryk · Jan 24, 2019

puzzlefish said:
Here's a standing offer for you Terry. Send me one of your Mini Sunday Millions hand histories and I'll mark out the patterns.

Cmon puzzlefish,,,dont u play? Why can't you show us your HH,,,, stop the charade kid,,you're only going to embarrass yourself further. let it go,,, Lets play sum cards,,,

canabero · Jan 24, 2019

i have been suckedout many times in 888, this week i couldn't reach ITM losing ridiculous hands. 888 is not different than any poker room.

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