PS is rigged.

these theories and finaltable1 profile picture are a perfect fit 🤣

Havent won NOT a single thing there so far in 2023 so me estimate that this title is actually correct

Favorite conspiracy theme, you just have to accept that someone else can play better than you and spend more time than you. And even when you think that call or raise with the all-in is illogical, the person who chooses these options just knows the ranges and chances preflop, and in general no one canceled luck. For some reason, no one has ever complained when he got it, all complain only when the opponent got it. Think about it.🧐

I seriously doubt there is any reason for Poker Stars or any other site to cheat any players. Why, they are not playing the money and they get the rake. There is just no reason for it. While I don't know what happened or why you lost, I have heard many of the conspiracy's and again it dont think they have any validity.

If you have information you want to show us, please do. You might be surprised how other look at the situation. My friend used to complain how his aces lost at a ridiculous rate and not win 83% of the time like they should. I asked him to show me his last 10 losses. In several of them he open limps and went to the flop 3 or 4 handed and one time called 6 way from the BB. He blamed poker stars when it was his play that cost him.

This is poker and that situation will happen to us, only we need to control our emotions, take a break and play well. Good luck.

I'm not agreeing with you nor am I disagreeing with you. Just want to point something out to you.

Andyreas said:

Now the rigging theories even collide!

You are saying the big stacks loose in a tournament, others say they win with any two cards because the poker rooms want to end the tournament quickly to win more rake.

Who's right now?

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Barbeit0 said:

They found a way to cheat, maybe it doesn't happen to you because you are a regular customer, but it happens to me every day. I lose tournaments magically.

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You're saying that maybe it doesn't happen to Andyreas because he's a regular customer, and at the same time you are saying it happens to you every day? So, you are actually playing at PokerStars on a daily basis, that's basically the definition of a regular customer. Can you see the problem with your statement?

you always have a choice to play or not, reset KK-AA or lose fsi chips

because poker is cruel and they can move with any hand, good luck to everyone at the desks

ElScorcho008 said:

I understand getting upset when you get a bad beat, but these sites are making money no matter if you win or lose. They are making a lot of money. They don't need to rig the game. If they did and got caught, they would lose everything

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I agree with this mate. Poker room owners don't care who wins. They are not there to benefit anyone. What we can come to think of is that they want the tournaments to end faster to earn more commissions from other tournaments and relieve the Room a bit, so it may be possible for them to give the Big Stacks a little more advantage. , perhaps by giving him better cards than the other players and making them bind their cards.

But I'll give you some advice: don't think that way, because that way you'll simply stop playing because of your Super Ego, because you think you're one of the best poker players and those things can't happen to you." Even I've fallen into that trap. of our own being. This game is not like that, tournaments have the greatest variance in poker. It is not easy to win a tournament with 1000 players. It is strong, you have to arm yourself with patience, study and persistence to achieve results long-term.

Yeah way to go everyone, let's make fun of the fishes so that they don't play. Great idea! /S

Barbeit0 said:

I dont want to discuss, because i dont have doubt, this is a mafia guys. Im not paranoic, I am an observer. Pokerstars needs to put you in the ground if you are playing good, right? You cant take money for free, or just because you are a good player with some luck. When you win a big stack in any tournamente, i recommended to you to play very very safe.

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1. It's not Pokerstars. It is their software, that they did not code, but which they purchased for their site.

2. In poker you get screwed most of the time regardless of whether you are a small stack or a big stack. The central theme of poker is losing. Playing very safe also leads to more losing, because then you will only play the best hands which suck out way less than they get sucked out on. You take more bad beats playing with the safest best hands.

Barbeit0 said:

They found a way to cheat, maybe it doesn't happen to you because you are a regular customer, but it happens to me every day. I lose tournaments magically.

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It happens to everybody. The average decent player will cash in only about 10-15% of tournaments that they play. The better you think you are, the more painful it is to lose and lose some more those 75 times out of 100.

Barbeit0 said:

You are right. But i promise you, im not crazy, no matter if i play hands like j-j because the guy on my left have QQ or KK in the same time. No matters if i go with A-A because some guy gets 4 5 6 7 in the community cards. I promise you this happen all, all the time.

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That is how poker works. People will bet hard with strong hands. If you are raising and someone else is reraising or calling, they usually don't have garbage. If you are trapping with AA and a bunch of people call, they usually will have all sorts of speculative hands that will suck out on you.

Barbeit0 said:

That is right, but i cant fold Q-Q, or A-K suit. And when i go with that hands, the fkn game beat me hard every day every time. Things that would happen ones on a while

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Then just learn to let these go on the flop if you are not all in preflop. If you are all in preflop, there is nothing left to do than to move on.

Barbeit0 said:

I also won a tournament at 888poker the first day I played, and that same day I came to this forum to comment that it seemed very likely that I played against many bots. I don't think winning is a reason to stay quiet and suck feet.

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Even if there are a bunch of bots, complaining about this in an online poker forum is going to accomplish absolutely nothing for you.

Barbeit0 said:

Variance is something, but i promise you, pokerstars dont wanna people like me that cant put so much usd in his account. Im a good player but i cant win with this magical flops and rivers.

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They love for people like you to keep depositing your money so that they can get rake and fees from you playing. They don't really care if you lose or win. That would be everyone else that you play against.

weezy1312 said:

these theories and finaltable1 profile picture are a perfect fit 🤣

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Play against these guys and u will very quickly see why they are not winning longterm and why they think its rigged.

Hint: because they are awfull at poker.

I always had the same feeling that depending on the region in which you play on Pokerstars, it tilts your cards a little, although making any kind of assumption is in vain since verifying it would be almost impossible. When I have a long bad streak in tournaments with bad bets, I choose other types of poker games, such as 5 card draw

Jokerstars, 888, wpt, partypoker...etc
All of them are a .....%¨#&¨%#*! haha
Doesn't mean they are manipulated, just our fault for choosing poker as a game (both online and live)...it's how it works!
...or maybe switch to chess or some game of pure skill! hehe

finaltable1 said:

I'm not going to prove anything, cause obviously it can not be proven.. RNG and such bla bla bla... Consider it my theory or observations..
BUT
Let's watch and compare some of the poker streamers, like Lex Veldhuis or Spraggy for PS and ANY other streamer for ANY other poker platform.
You can clearly see the difference, how calm non PS streamers are with high pocket pairs, like AA... and HOW nervous PS poker Pros with such hands "Please HOLD... PLEASE"

yes ofc u can track stats for any type of hand played with HUD or even ask support to give you the stats, just to be exact... but most of the players who play several poker platforms at the same time can easily track such things using their withdrawals history.

You play same ranges, same style BUT at different poker sites, and you're getting very different picture. Some will say that fields are different, but they're not, specially at low-mid levels.

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I dont watch those streamers but maybe just maybe they all have a different personality? Maybe some of them are more nervous in allin situations while others are not?

Do u really think those few streamer hands u saw mean anything?

yes its because the field on ps is stronger than on other sites. Its widely known.

How should u track "such things" using ur "withdraw history?" Withdraw history shows how much u withdrew and has nothing to do with hands u played.

Would give 0/5 stars for that post.

Suns of Beaches said:

I dont watch those streamers but maybe just maybe they all have a different personality? Maybe some of them are more nervous in allin situations while others are not?

Do u really think those few streamer hands u saw mean anything?

yes its because the field on ps is stronger than on other sites. Its widely known.

How should u track "such things" using ur "withdraw history?" Withdraw history shows how much u withdrew and has nothing to do with hands u played.

Would give 0/5 stars for that post.

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He is smarter than most though... he'll even tell you about it (don't you know he makes some sort of machines & makes lots of money at it).

Barbeit0 said:

I dont want to discuss, because i dont have doubt, this is a mafia guys. Im not paranoic, I am an observer. Pokerstars needs to put you in the ground if you are playing good, right? You cant take money for free, or just because you are a good player with some luck. When you win a big stack in any tournamente, i recommended to you to play very very safe.

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Caution never hurts. But it is not worth talking about fraud on such popular sites as PokerStars. If you have evidence of fraud, you can go to court, or you can simply not play on this site. If you think that all sites have one or another falsification, then nothing prevents you from finding a better and safer game.

This whole thread is a joke right? Maybe intended to increase your post count to earn platinum status? Although its not exactly "quality posts", so that might not work. For anyone taking this remotely serious, please take a moment to check out OPs sharkscope profile on PokerStars (username found in CC profile).


OP started playing on PokerStars around 3 weeks ago. He has since then played 335 games for an average buyin of $0,09 playing mainly freerolls and hyperturbo satellites. So yeah. Clearly someone, who has a lot of experience, and whos opinion should carry a lot of weight

Luvepoker said:

I seriously doubt there is any reason for Poker Stars or any other site to cheat any players. Why, they are not playing the money and they get the rake. There is just no reason for it. While I don't know what happened or why you lost, I have heard many of the conspiracy's and again it dont think they have any validity.

If you have information you want to show us, please do. You might be surprised how other look at the situation. My friend used to complain how his aces lost at a ridiculous rate and not win 83% of the time like they should. I asked him to show me his last 10 losses. In several of them he open limps and went to the flop 3 or 4 handed and one time called 6 way from the BB. He blamed poker stars when it was his play that cost him.

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Thank for your comment. I think pokerstars have reason to have a software that can help them to win more money, or lose least. That is why they are in Isle of Man, right? But they have a lot of fans, idk why people think that i am here to blame without reasons, i think this is not rng, and i say my reasons, and respect others opinions.
But think about it, they have reasons to do this because they are a company, if i win usd because im good at the game, i will never put money on the platform, for example. The other day i win a freroll(1#) for 7.5 ticket tournament and they put me fast in there, i promise they dont give me chance to live 10 min, they all have great hands except me, i dont deserve to be in that tournament? when i got a good hand, the other have a good good hand, when i got a good good hand, the other have a goood goood goood hand, i got A-Q and guy in my left got A-K, i got QQ guy in my left got KK(all in 15 hands). Is obvious for me, its rigged af.

Lena M said:

Caution never hurts. But it is not worth talking about fraud on such popular sites as PokerStars. If you have evidence of fraud, you can go to court, or you can simply not play on this site. If you think that all sites have one or another falsification, then nothing prevents you from finding a better and safer game.

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Popular is good for you? I think is not. I think you are a slave with that ideology.

fundiver199 said:

This whole thread is a joke right? Maybe intended to increase your post count to earn platinum status? Although its not exactly "quality posts", so that might not work. For anyone taking this remotely serious, please take a moment to check out OPs Sharkscope profile on PokerStars (username found in CC profile).

SharkScope - Online Poker Statistics

Track your poker statistics and avoid the sharks. SharkScope is the most complete database of poker tournament results available and covers virtually all online poker sites.

www.sharkscope.com

OP started playing on PokerStars around 3 weeks ago. He has since then played 335 games for an average buyin of $0,09 playing mainly freerolls and hyperturbo satellites. So yeah. Clearly someone, who has a lot of experience, and whos opinion should carry a lot of weight

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Your nick is a joke. Maybe you can put usd without problem in your account so you are so happy with your fullhouses and colors in every tournament.

Suns of Beaches said:

Play against these guys and u will very quickly see why they are not winning longterm and why they think its rigged.

Hint: because they are awfull at poker.

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Omg we have Phil Hellmuth with us. Lets play man, i call your bluffs and win to you, kid.

Barbeit0 said:

Your nick is a joke. Maybe you can put usd without problem in your account so you are so happy with your fullhouses and colors in every tournament.

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I have won around $7.000 in tournaments and SnGs on PokerStars and around $2.000 in cash games. And yes I have full confidence, that the cards are dealt randomly. Otherwise I would not continue to play.

Barbeit0 said:

Thank for your comment. I think pokerstars have reason to have a software that can help them to win more money, or lose least. That is why they are in Isle of Man, right? But they have a lot of fans, idk why people think that i am here to blame without reasons, i think this is not rng, and i say my reasons, and respect others opinions.
But think about it, they have reasons to do this because they are a company, if i win usd because im good at the game, i will never put money on the platform, for example. The other day i win a freroll(1#) for 7.5 ticket tournament and they put me fast in there, i promise they dont give me chance to live 10 min, they all have great hands except me, i dont deserve to be in that tournament? when i got a good hand, the other have a good good hand, when i got a good good hand, the other have a goood goood goood hand, i got A-Q and guy in my left got A-K, i got QQ guy in my left got KK(all in 15 hands). Is obvious for me, its rigged af.

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Yes dude, the isle of man isn't famous for it's 0% tax on most company incomes, but well known for running rigged RNGs.

edit: /s because the 🐟 liked my reply

fundiver199 said:

I have won around $7.000 in tournaments and SnGs on PokerStars and around $2.000 in cash games. And yes I have full confidence, that the cards are dealt randomly. Otherwise I would not continue to play.

SharkScope - Online Poker Statistics

Track your poker statistics and avoid the sharks. SharkScope is the most complete database of poker tournament results available and covers virtually all online poker sites.

www.sharkscope.com

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Yes of course that is what im saying, you won a lot, and you loose a lot. Your software loves you.

Hello, Everyone! At the present time I can't to say about PokerStars anything by one simple cause:
because I enough a long time don't play on this poker site generally! That's all!

I'll tell you a short story, I won a hand from a guy, he was 2 BB behind, he tilted, he went all in all the following hands, he won at least 10 hands in a row, he doubled what he had before losing to me, including myself, then went out to him, he kept going all in and left a few hands later, that's how the game is!