There are zero affiliate games but still other kinds of freerolls.UngureanuDan said:
Exactly. Having freerolls as part of a reward program can make sense. But rewarding people for signing up to an affiliate site or finding leaked passwords on the internet makes a lot less sense for the poker site. So if anything one has to wonder, why this was allowed to continue for so many yearsPoker Orifice said:
Yes, they have satellite-like freerolls, but it's not freerolls for affiliates, nor it's rewards for active players. It's just satellites.fundiver199 said:
Well, I'm not talking about the affiliates freerolls specifically, I honestly don't care about them. I'm rather talking about the gradual decision of PS to get rid of freerolls of all kinds throughout recent years and abandoning them altogether in the end. Add to this their other regular decisions like always declining rakeback and promotions, and then yes, I stand by my first sentence to you in this thread.fundiver199 said:
I meant tournament dollars, not tickets, the big GG freerolls award in C$, which would promote people to play further on the site (they have no choice). PS considered the option of awarding in tickets, but then got rid of all freerolls in the end.fundiver199 said:Apparently their decision is, that all freerolls must reward tickets. Which in my opinion makes sense, because in that way the regular games are propped up, and the money has to be turned over at least once, before it can be withdrawn. Also a promotion as the one outlined by Debi below would reward people, who actually play and pay rake instead of randomly giving away money to someone, who found a leaked password on the internet
I didn't see such threads, I saw people playing other stuff too to achieve it, but maybe I'm wrong. Either way it's not a majority of players, and it's ridiculous to say that this small amount of players are shrinking PS revenues so bad, that's PS decided to cut freerolls altogether.fundiver199 said:
that's funny, but no need to exaggerate, please, to such extentfundiver199 said:I guess, we will just have to wait for the terrible poker room PokerStars to disappear then. So far though I dont notice any decline in either SnGs or MTTs, since the affiliate freerolls were taken down at the end of 2023. So it seems to be a rather slow process
I wrote above why I replied to you initially.
Well, yes, everyone knows that fields got a lot tougher as years went by. And majority of newcomers would lose their deposits again and again now, opposite to what would be happening to them in 2005-2011.Poker Orifice said:
Poker Orifice said:
But I'm not talking about CC freerolls only!! Why do you assume I'm talking about the Cardschat freerolls? I'm talking about all freerolls, about the idea that "freerolls cut PS's revenues, so they got rid of them". No one stopped PS from doing any promos or similar freerolls rewarding active players. But they cut them first (freerolls awarding current active players ), they cut promos regularly, now they cut all freerolls, it's a final step, and to say it's all justified is silly for me. You got to focus on your customers, not on maximizing your revenues here and now, to be a long-lived business.fundiver199 said:But who are those invited players? Someone who paid a lot of rake, or someone who signed up for an internet forum or found a leaked password on the internet?
Plus every time someone ask advice about building up a bankroll, they get numerous answers recommending them to not deposit and only play freerolls. If a poker site representative read those posts, I honestly dont know, why they would still want to offer freerolls....
iwont20 said:
The change of ownership was like 10 years ago, so time to get over it and move on. The 1960`s are also not coming backToNy70929 said:
This PokerStars solution helped me rediscover a poker room I had forgotten about - 888. I haven't played there for more than 2 years, because I failed to pass the verification once. But I was patient and passed it successfully now, after which I got all the answers to my deposit and withdrawal questions, and I discovered a lot of great tournaments at 888, which are much more profitable than at PokerStars. So I'm thankful PokerStars canceled their freerolls and tightened up their loyalty program, otherwise I would never go back to play at 888.ZenonBR said:
Really? Do you have any sort of evidence to back up this claim? Its the same as saying, that burgers from McDonalds are not made with beef but with meat from cats, dogs, horses and rats. You probably dont want to say that publicly without having some sort of evidence, since you could risk ending up in a slander lawsuit. Also may I recommend this thread, if you want to share more conspiracy theories about "rigged" poker sites:valanddon said:
Of course, most of our community members will say that this decision was wrong. But probably if you asked this question to the management of PokerStars, they would answer you that it was a correct and considered decision. Who is right in such situations is a relative question, depending on where you are and who you areZenonBR said:
valanddon said:
Yeah no way they can survive without VIP customers like this forum member, who play for an average of $0,11 with the majority of his 4.606 games being freerolls. Pretty typical stats for the people, who most commonly played the CC freerollsR.Melnyk77 said:I only got platinum level in September 2023. In fact, I only played these freerolls for two or three months.
This is clearly a wrong decision that will lead to bad consequences. I even think that most likely PokerStars will go bankrupt....... without our community, this site has very little chance to survive in the conditions of fierce market competition
