KK vs flush draw

Huh?

eikon said:

my opinion!
With the raise that guy did , he could also have hit a Set , so in your position (the tight player i am) i would Fold the hand.

Since He could have got u beat and if not , he probablly has a Draw and with draw all ins at online poker , you ALWAYS hit.

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Maybe YOU always hit, 'cuz I NEVER hit---only the guy I'm playin against hits!!!

lewis010 said:

you have to call there man... the only chance you werent leading the hand is if your opponent have aa and this is not very probably. so i think its an easy call

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Two pair or a set also have you beat. A flush draw you have a sizable advantage especially if he doesn't have the ace, but it's by no means a certain win. So it's not as obvious as you think it is, but given the pot odds I would call, as I'm assuming there's about 5000 left to call to win 15000. I would usually call this against many opponents, but I could definitely lay this down against someone I knew was only raising with a good made hand (better than tptk).

pot odds , def call but for that much I hope he didnt catch low trips ..

has he done it before at the table, did anyone call so you could see what he had????? Best thing i could only see him having is A 10 i have seen players push a bluff just like that, he was taking down the blinds in my view..
The only time i have seen push's like that are when they have a flush draw or a str8 draw anyone else picked it up????

Some of the missing details would definitely color my move (size of BB, avg stack size, players remaining, etc), but I would find it difficult not to call regardless. I assume her/his 10K is close to or a little under the avg stack size. If s/he's shown any signs of desperation/frustration or been subject to some recent failed hands, easy call.

its a good flop for your cards but not great....but would he really push with just a draw at this point. he would probably wait for a better time to add to his stack. But its all about how he has played, does he like quality or does he chase and buy?
and of course it would help to know how much the blinds are

I will running, because

1 - I have a strong pair but is only it.
2 - 10K are a lot of blinds to spend of this hands.


Just i prefer running at the call.

Your kidding right? You were wondering if you should fold with the biggest on the possibility he had a draw? DUDE what the hell!!! YOU DONT FOLD THAT HAND. Dont think about the futur stages of the tournament you have to win chips to get there not wonder if you have enough to stay in. Play in the present. It is an immediate call.

ZZFLOP said:

FR

I have about 18 000 in chips , I'm in mp and I wake up with KK.
I have KK and raise 4 BB and get 2 callers,
Flop: 2d 7c 10d
I bet the pot so if one of my opponents is on a draw he gets no odds to call.
One opponent folds the other goes all in, his stack is about 10 000.
The overall chipleader at another table has about 50 000 and we're just past the middle stages of the tournament.
If I call I'll have a good shot at making the FT however if my Kings don't hold I will have to struggle to make it to the FT.
Do I call or fold ?

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Hello,



Never fold here. Call and win most of the time. You are ahead of most of villians hands here. Never fold

I like the comments and agree with most, I am all in with KK

I would call,but I don't know what the blinds were?

Just call, you are ahead most of the time and people tend to shove like this in freerolls with draws and top pairs

Why are we betting pot with KK to push out draws? We are ahead of draws!! Draws are unmade hands and we can get value from them...

This bet sizing is just horrible and most often is going to push our worse and get us called by better.

If villan is shoving a nut flush draw we are a slight favorite with KK and are not loving life but we have to call. If we are up against an open ender and a flush draw then KKs may be losing in this spot even tho we are technically ahead -- either way, we have to go with KK here. And the results will be whatever they are - if you lose after you get your money in good so what? The play was printing money long term.

Stop making goofy fishy pot sized bets with hands that need little to no protection - this is just bad play all around. You are losing value by doing this and putting yourself in awkward spots when villans become aggressive on wet flops -and all of this because you are uncomfortable playing post flop. I wouod focus on that aspect of my game if I were you. I hope this helps