Best Strategy for playing satellites?

How to play sattelites?

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Play tight is what i do

I play these all the time on ACR I play tight and usually win but as soon as i get into the tourney i just won a seat in I screw it up and i am out. If you do win one don't wait till close to end of late reg. I find that hard to to get enough chips to stay in the game. But if you play tight and agg when you hit bet agg and you should win I do this but like I said these guys playing are so much better than me that I am soon out. My advice is to play the micro games en-till your ready for higher stakes or you just won't last. I am good enough to win the sat game but not good enough to last in the tourney. I suck life sucks than you die. Good luck hope you win.

Akprompt, I have good news for you. You're in the right place to learn about satellites.

The expert Dara O'Kearney has an AMA thread right here where you can ask him questions about this topic, and I'd suggest by reading first the book he co-wrote with Barry Carter which gives a great approach to beating satellites.

With that said, I think the most important idea to sat strategy is:

If you can fold your way into the money at any point, then you should just fold every hand and lock up the win

Satelite Strategy:

Be - Do - Have

This is a good framework.

The "Be" part is a mental game side and is as follows:

1.) Realise there is a chance you are not going to win the first couple you attempt. This is normal and nothing to get disheartened by.

2.) If you are playing a certain Satelite and cannot spot mistakes your opponents are making, it may be a sign you are the underdog in this Sat! You should re-evaluate whether this is a target MTT you should be focusing on! You may be overwhelming dominated in skill level and may lose a lot of time and money targeting this tournament

3.) bankroll management doesn't exist for MTTs... a budget does. Due to enormouse swings with all forms of MTTs and Multi-Table SNGs, you cannot expect to fully use BR management but should instead consider a budget. A budget means quite literally:

"How much can I afford to lose each month playing Tournament Poker?"

The above is just a few pointers with the mindset for these games. Let's move onto strategy.

This is the "Do" part...

1.) Recognise your goal- If 10 seats are available in the sat then to win you need to come 10th. If winner takes all, you need to play to win. Think about what your actual goal needs to be before all else.

2.) Tight is right at the start... usually...: the pots at the start are fairly low in value so for the most part tighten up and keep it simple. Stick to the absolute basics and feel free to pass opportunities if they are too high risk at the start as the rewards are minimal early stages. When you get to mid or late stages, take a few more chances with the bigger pots. The only time you should not do this is if your table are a copying this and are overly folding. If your entire table is folding far too easily then a small-ball style Semi-Loose Aggressive can constantly steal small pots with very low risk. Learn when to use blind steals and resteals along with In-Position 3 bets to take down pots preflop if your table is folding too much.

3.) Late stage is mainly push-fold, learn the preflop pushfold game or rely on NASH Equilibrium charts when your stack is 20 big blinds or less. Learn when and how to go all in with a small stack.

Just a few pointers, hope it helps....

(P.S the "Have" goes without saying, HAVE some tickets for big MTTs and good luck in them!)

I've played a lot satellites so far, in fact satellites makes more than a half of tourneys in total I've played so far and in my experience satellites should be played passive - aggressive. I've got a feeling that most of the players in satellites play aggressive, trying to make a difference real quick but they usually forget that satellites are not classic MTT's, where the ultimate goal is to collect all the chips in play. In satellites you make a decent stack and survive until ITM.

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How to play sattelites?

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No need to rush at the beginning. Doubling chips does not double your equity, so your co-flip draw is only beneficial for other players in the tournament, but not for you. This does not mean that you do not need to play in the early stages of the satellite at all. Stacking up is always good, but your goal in this stage of the tournament is to "save" rather than "accumulate."During the middle stage of the satellite, your cards are much less important than the size of your stack, the size of your opponent’s stack, position, blind growth time and approximation of the bubble. Moreover, the size of the stack is one of the key factors. With a large stack, you can relax a bit, but not just drop each hand, because no one is playing in the fold-to-prize mode. There is still a lot to play and pay a lot of blinds.At this stage, it’s still important to keep an eye on the upcoming blinds and try to steal enough to maintain your relative stack size. In a satellite you have a lot more fold equity with a <10 BB stack (even <5 BB) than in regular tournaments.When you are almost guaranteed a place in the prizes, my simple (but not absolutely correct) advice is: if your place, by the size of the stack, enters the prize area with a margin, wait for the people to fly out, you can simply fold each hand. For example, if 35 places are paid, in the game there are 40 people and you are in 12th place, you can safely fold, fold, fold even with aces. An exception may be when 2.5 BB short stack is shoved and you are in the big blind with aces.

Strategy for satellites

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Akprompt, I have good news for you. You're in the right place to learn about satellites.

The expert Dara O'Kearney has an AMA thread right here where you can ask him questions about this topic, and I'd suggest by reading first the book he co-wrote with Barry Carter which gives a great approach to beating satellites.

With that said, I think the most important idea to sat strategy is:

If you can fold your way into the money at any point, then you should just fold every hand and lock up the win

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I like that strategy, fold every hand and guarantee a win. I've actually been sucessful multiple times just folding every hand, unless i get the nuts...AA preflop ill go all-in. Also if i get low on chips toward the end of the tournament ill usually have to pick a few decent hands pre-flop and go all-in again.

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3.) Bankroll management doesn't exist for MTTs... a budget does. Due to enormouse swings with all forms of MTTs and Multi-Table SNGs, you cannot expect to fully use BR management but should instead consider a budget.

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Its certainly possible to have a BR for MTTs, it just need to be larger than for STTs or cash games. An often used rule is 100 times the buyin, and if you mainly play small or medium sized MTTs, that will work out just fine.

If for instance a winning player has 500$ in his account and play a mixture of small to medium sized 2-5$ MTTs, he is extremely unlikely to go broke. Which is of course the whole idea behind BRM. You want to make sure, you can continue to play, and since you can not play without money, it is an asset, which you need to protect.

That being said satellites are almost per definition for shot taking, because if you have the proper BR for the target tournament, why not just buy in directly? Satellites are for chasing dreams, and if you mainly chase dreams, you should have a budget.

Also a bunch of poker players take about BR and BRM without even knowing, that they are winning players. And you cant actually have a BR, unless you are a winning player. If you are a losing player, then per definition any amount of money, you set aside for poker, will be gone at some point, if you continue playing.

Finally overcoming variance is certainly possible in multitable SnGs and small to medium sized online MTTs, if you play regularly. But you can never overcome variance in the Sunday Million, because its so large, and it only play once a week. So it does not make sense to even try to have a bankroll for that particular tournament.

I try to register on time without delay. I re-enter only in the cheapest (initial) satellites. I play carefully in ordinary tournaments and approaching the place where I got the next ticket I’m even more careful depending on the size of the stack. If the end of the tournament is close and the stack is big, I can not play at all.

if the satellite is a freeroll it is very difficult to play strategically because in the beginning your bets are not respected and the other players bet everything with any hand so you will need luck because you will play without seeing the flop. Satellites paid like sit & go and others are more balanced and you can use your strategies because other players will also be more cautious

I think that to gain experience you should not start with the satellites. Because if you are lucky and you win it, you will have to play with the players. A huge mass of questions will arise and disappointment from the lack of answers will prevent you from improving your skills. It's much calmer to start with freerolls. Good luck!


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torneos satelites

Hi. I think it must be played according to the tournament. There are satellite tournaments that rank just a player, these are difficult and you have to apply a different strategy to others who are or hyper turbo sit & go. I play many of the latter very aggressive and always play in the correct position. Clear

Depending on the percent of people who win a ticket, you might have to play a little looser

Satellites are a very important part of the poker ecosystem (without them there would be no poker boom and the Moneymaker effect)! The game in them is different that you need to get into itm and not take 1st place, personally I try to build a game only against weak players and wait for a good hand against strong ones!