To people who multi-table.. one word HOW??? lol

Well I've tried it on and off the past few days, can't do it. nevermind

the lab man said:

Multi table Players are playing their range of cards and position rather than their opponents.... unless the opponents are regs. and then an adjustment may be neccessary.

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i totaly agree with that...when you multi tables you don't play a skilled poker or smart poker...you play the board and your cards!!i think multi tabling is for player that have no patience"an important quality in poker" so they just won't get bored waiting too much for the right cards to play...i think you should keep on playin on one table if it's the best way you play!!but if you want to practice it why don't you just try it in playmoney??its safe so you wont take any risk of losing your money lool.

gighabib said:

...when you multi tables you don't play a skilled poker or smart poker...you play the board and your cards!!i think multi tabling is for player that have no patience"an important quality in poker" so they just won't get bored waiting too much for the right cards to play...i think you should keep on playin on one table if it's the best way you play!!but if you want to practice it why don't you just try it in playmoney??its safe so you wont take any risk of losing your money lool.

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Well personally I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about here. I mean it's obvious to me that you're not a successful mult-tabler so to offer an opinion is fine but to suggest that 'when you play mulit tables you don't play a skilled poker or smart poker' < is very wrong!
Why not practise it on play money? Umm.. because it's not really possible to play 'real poker' on a play money table so how is that going to help someone to learn how to play on multiple tables at the game they play?

Sunday morning I'm pre-reg'd for a bunch of tourneys, unfortunately a bunch starting early. I'm going to need to get up at least an hour before I start playing because when my first tournament starts, another 17 tourneys will be starting within 15minutes. Doubt it will be optimal but it might be close.

In the hour following that I will have 8 more starting up.
And then at the 2hr. mark I will have another 8 tourneys starting, LOL.

It doesn't stop there,.. at hour 4 thru hour 8, there will be anywhere from 5 to 12 more starting up (& I know I'm playing less tourneys than a buddy of mine I chat with... doubt we'll be chatting much tomorrow though)

gighabib said:

i totaly agree with that...when you multi tables you don't play a skilled poker or smart poker...you play the board and your cards!!i think multi tabling is for player that have no patience"an important quality in poker" so they just won't get bored waiting too much for the right cards to play...i think you should keep on playin on one table if it's the best way you play!!but if you want to practice it why don't you just try it in playmoney??its safe so you wont take any risk of losing your money lool.

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Ignorance at its very best.

If you are using and exploring the power of a HUD, I absolutely suggest figuring things out via Play Money games.

And this notion that you can't learn to play real poker in play money games is hogwash. What you can't learn in play money games is all the aspects of scared money that only real money poker can teach.

I still contend that new players who spend a long time achieving a goal of say 1 million play chips will learn most all of what they need to move into cash play and not feel like a complete idiot.

just add tables gradually

lather rinse repeat

gl at the tables,

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starsmyle said:

OK missing something here....What is Hud? I like to multitask sometimes but no more than 3 tables. Helps not to get too bored at one table and make a stupid call out of boredom,,,,,,,redbull lol yeah that guy with a screenfull has to be loaded up on something hahaha

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If you don't have the cash for a HUD you could play on carbon and get their free HUD to start learning how to use it, tho it only works on Carbons skin.

dj11 said:

If you are using and exploring the power of a HUD, I absolutely suggest figuring things out via Play Money games.

And this notion that you can't learn to play real poker in play money games is hogwash. What you can't learn in play money games is all the aspects of scared money that only real money poker can teach.

I still contend that new players who spend a long time achieving a goal of say 1 million play chips will learn most all of what they need to move into cash play and not feel like a complete idiot.

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I'm with DJ on play money. Tho i don't have 1 mil in play chips at Pokerstars or FTP.

The key to mass-tabling is generalizing. You need to generally understand how the average 60/5 will play and how the average 16/14 reg will play and how the average 8/7 reg will play etc.

For example there might be a 60/5 that actually bluff-raises flop a lot. I would probably notice that after he did it a few times to me but if I'm 16-tabling I'm not going to look in my hud for the raise flop stat I'm just going to assume the 60/5 has the nuts. Since I didn't pay attention when he was bluff-raising the other people I didn't see that. After he does it a few times to me though I can look into it and then adjust. But the bottom line is that I'm giving up slight value there in order to play a lot of tables. And the other bottom line is there are not many 60/5's that bluff raise postflop. Generally you can put players into categories and you will be correct most of the time. So you're not giving up that much in order to be able to play a ton of tables, which helps your hourly as well as getting to the long run a ton.

As for how to do it, listen to everyone above. Just add one table, then another one, until you're used to it. You'll realize that as you get less time per decision you'll have to make decisions quicker and filter/process the information well. I don't know of any way to teach that other than practice.

edit: on play money sure getting a million chips may help you learn enough skills to beat 2nl, but that probably takes hundreds of hours, whereas if you just deposit and accept you'll be a losing player starting out, you'll lose maybe $50 before you start winning. I don't know about you guys but my time's worth something so I'd rather pay the money to avoid the ridiculously long process which will also probably teach you a few bad habits.

I was trying to think of a decent reply to this thread for ages, ^ generally sums up my thoughts lol

Play money is a waste of time, dep $50, play 2nl, work on your game, and you will never go broke, you'll start beating the player pool before you lose $50 and then your at least getting some monetary return on your time.

Poker is a game played with real money, imo theres a lot to be learnt by playing with cash over play money. I think theres a decent amount to be learnt playing smaller field freerolls if your gonna be playing mtt's in the future, but if your going to be playing cash games, then just deposit and play them

Download HEM or Poker Tracker. It makes life so much easier!

hackmeplz said:

You'll realize that as you get less time per decision you'll have to make decisions quicker and filter/process the information well. I don't know of any way to teach that other than practice.

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If youre any good at poker (which you should be if you want to multitable), then like 99% of your decisions should be automatic. you should immediately know what the correct play is based on your holecards, board texture, stats and the action- especially at lower limits where every villains line is just so goddamn standard. i think its pretty safe to say that we multitablers would only require the timebank to actually think about a hand fully a couple times an hour

I actually think that's wrong and that playing like that is what keeps a lot of people from improving. If you're making a play "because it's standard", you're doing yourself a disservice even if it is the correct play. There's a reason why so many people start mass-tabling at 50nl/100nl and then 5 years later wonder why they still are only a rb pro at those same limits or maybe even lower limits.

yea alot of sites do it if they give free money to new members ive had to send a copy of my id

hackmeplz said:

I actually think that's wrong and that playing like that is what keeps a lot of people from improving. If you're making a play "because it's standard", you're doing yourself a disservice even if it is the correct play. There's a reason why so many people start mass-tabling at 50nl/100nl and then 5 years later wonder why they still are only a rb pro at those same limits or maybe even lower limits.

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i think youre misunderstanding me. i said that youre making your decisions based on your villains always very standard lines, not necessarily doing things yourself that are deemed standard.

you have an overpair and the 60/5 check/raises the the 348r flop, youre snap folding. thats all i meant. (although tbh, even 24 tabling im checking his flop c/r frequency before deciding to fold or flat the check/call down)

EDIT: this reminds of people 3bing QQ vs 9/5 nits, bc 3bing QQ "is standard", then calling off a jam and whinging that its always aces. cringe lol

Ok so what I've done is MTT have one SNG and MTT load up at the same time, in MTT reads arn't really important early game since you chop and changing tables quite frequently, once blinds reach 200+ my attention soly goes on the MTT, its worked alright, I've gone deep in 5-6 MTTs with no final table yet (I think my best is 18th) but so far its working alright..