Basic maths: 3bet vs villains' F3B %

[liono]

Bear in mind that your opponent will be looking at your stats too (if not then they are probably a fish).

Therefore I don't think that this can be looked at in a 'basic math' way.

If your 3-bet and 4-bet stats go through the roof then you leave yourself vulnerable to lighter 4-bets and 5-bets as well as getting taken to value town by better hands.

Don't get me wrong - I think it's good to get a bit aggro, just keep an eye on your table image (stats) and don't let them get out of hand.

 

[Cafeman]

Largely agree, although there are some mass multitablers I play against who don't seem to have the time to make adjustments. Against these (fairly exploitable) players, the maths works out reasonably well. Obv you don't take the piss, but I find you can steal their CO opens every now and then just fine

To reiterate, I'm fairly new to poker, so I was just trying to put some numbers to the moves is all.

For example, in this thread where we were working out the FE required to BE on our shove; again it's just maths with assumptions thrown in. Not perfect by any means. But it wasn't until I saw how the numbers came out that I realised just how little FE is sometimes required to make the semi bluff shove (for example) a rather profitable play.

Anyways, don't mind me, I'm just a beginner trying to work out what most of you already seem to know.

 

[ThBonus]

3x to 9x 3 bets need to work about 70%. Yes you should use a polarized range vs people who fold alot to 3 bets!

 

[jchris67]

Thanks guys this is great info. I love poker but struggle a little with the math side of things; especially in regards to 3 bets and implied odds with weak pocket pairs.

 

[jbbb]

3x to 9x 3 bets need to work about 70%. Yes you should use a polarized range vs people who fold alot to 3 bets!

Polarized range or not doesn't depend on how often they fold, it depends on what they do when they don't fold. IF they call, it's better to 3b a merged range, if they either 4b or fold its better to 3b a polarized range.

 

[jchris67]

This may be a dumb question, but exactly what do you mean by polarized range in regards to pre-flop?

 

[Pascal-lf]

very good or very bad