hey, i'm 9k. #3

[hackmeplz]

idk I usually just shove but gaybet gets calls from like 100% of his range so idk that's probably better in a vacuum.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

lol is that what its called? always called it the Arrabet since he first put the idea into my head

anyway, weekend! more hands, more $ to rub on titties!

 

[acky100]

Yeh think my thinking that we could bet our whole range small here is probs wrong, think we have too many bluffs so shove is probs good with both, balance aside i still think a small bet is probs gonna be best in a vaccum vs a relatively unknown 50 reg

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

we have too many bluffs? think bluffing should be good here but I don't think i'm barreling river here with air too often..

 

[acky100]

i think we have too many hands like JJ, missed draws and stuff we can turn into a bluff to get him off his obvious Ax, KK, Qx stuff, so maybe we need to bet river big as possible if we care about balance is what i think i mean? ugh i dont know, made sense in my head

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

dunno how many regs hero river there to a bomb with KK/weak Ax etc though.. and I figured our range was a lot of strong Ax/2pairs/sets/flushes/busted flushes..

the boards kinda connected and his range is pretty capped so big bets just get like 95% folds I think.

no point balancing here either really, Arrabet the nuts here on review imo

 

[pocketehs]

its nice to run good.....and then the online run ends....

^ ya what he said

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

its nice to run good.....and then the online run ends....

seems legit

 

[Ducky7]

+ 10000

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

spewww!:

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $48.14 (VPIP: 23.19, PFR: 11.59, 3Bet Preflop: 8.20, Hands: 142)
CO: $66.55 (VPIP: 69.41, PFR: 8.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
BTN: $60.23 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
SB: $15.61 (VPIP: 82.72, PFR: 32.10, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 81)

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A:heart: 8:heart:

fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2.00, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, BTN calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.75, 2 players) Q:diamond: 2:heart: 6:heart:
Hero bets $7.00, BTN calls $7.00

Turn: ($26.75, 2 players) J:diamond:
Hero bets $13.00, BTN calls $13.00

River: ($52.75, 2 players) T:diamond:
Hero bets $24.00 and is all-in

 

[atlantafalcons0]

Against a BTN open he can certainly 3bet hands like QJo, QKo. I'd say his range on the river is some Q containing broadways and a few Ax hands he decided were good to 3bet against your steal range. I'd bet between 1/3 and 1/2 pot on the river because I don't think you're getting much more.

I'd go with 1/3 pot (or even less) here on the river because that will give him incentive to come over the top with a shove either with a decent hand or a total bluff. Either way you're guaranteed a call I think.

 

[atlantafalcons0]

spewww!:

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $48.14 (VPIP: 23.19, PFR: 11.59, 3Bet Preflop: 8.20, Hands: 142)
CO: $66.55 (VPIP: 69.41, PFR: 8.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
BTN: $60.23 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
SB: $15.61 (VPIP: 82.72, PFR: 32.10, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 81)

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A♥ 8♥

fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2.00, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, BTN calls $4.00

Flop: ($12.75, 2 players) Q♦ 2♥ 6♥
Hero bets $7.00, BTN calls $7.00

Turn: ($26.75, 2 players) J♦
Hero bets $13.00, BTN calls $13.00

River: ($52.75, 2 players) T♦
Hero bets $24.00 and is all-in

This seems terrible at first glance but after some thought I guess you can represent ace king or a number of hands where the river completes something. Does anyone think checking the turn is a bad play here?

 

[Ducky7]

If you check the turn you should be giving up ^^

Also its hard to see where from but i think you need to make it a bigger shove OTR, so maybe like 6.50 OTF then like 11/12 OTR and you can shove like 27/28 into 48ish and i think gets more folds coz the river shove looks pretty small to me

 

[atlantafalcons0]

If you check the turn you should be giving up ^^

Also its hard to see where from but i think you need to make it a bigger shove OTR, so maybe like 6.50 OTF then like 11/12 OTR and you can shove like 27/28 into 48ish and i think gets more folds coz the river shove looks pretty small to me

Yes giving up as far as calling any type of bet on the turn but what's the chances of our opponent checking back and giving us a free look at the river?

 

[Ducky7]

Not likely on that board hes gonna bet like all the time when checked to him

 

[atlantafalcons0]

Not likely on that board hes gonna bet like all the time when checked to him

But you're already putting 13$ in, shouldn't we take a chance on that? Even if he bets up to $13 we can still call and spend the same amount of $$$ on the river???

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Our hand is more faceup if we x/c the turn.

 

[atlantafalcons0]

Our hand is more faceup if we x/c the turn.

But the argument that you could save money and still see the river stands. Who cares if our hand is more face up?

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

+ x/c turn is lolbad since we have no FE on rivers.. i'm thinking betting is always the better option, given how many floats he has and little value combos.

just flop needs to be smaller, turn needs to be smaller to set up FE for rivers and given how dry-ish the flop is apart from FD's.

x/j has no FE either when he bets $16+ which is normal sizing..

river shove is so lol, but hey i'm a spewtard.

 

[atlantafalcons0]

+ x/c turn is lolbad since we have no FE on rivers.. i'm thinking betting is always the better option, given how many floats he has and little value combos.

just flop needs to be smaller, turn needs to be smaller to set up FE for rivers and given how dry-ish the flop is apart from FD's.

x/j has no FE either when he bets $16+ which is normal sizing..

river shove is so lol, but hey i'm a spewtard.

You guys are talking like there's no way he checks back the turn and gives us a free river. I beg to differ.

Edit: There's definitely a possibility that we could save money on the turn to see the river.

 

[Ducky7]

You guys are talking like there's no way he checks back the turn and gives us a free river. I beg to differ.

Name 1 hand he checks back, if he checks back this turn hes bad imo, theres no hands that he should be checking back. Bluffs bet and all value hands bet for protection and all draw bet too

 

[atlantafalcons0]

Name 1 hand he checks back, if he checks back this turn hes bad imo, theres no hands that he should be checking back. Bluffs bet and all value hands bet for protection and all draw bet too

Ace ten of spades.

 

[Ducky7]

What...

 

[Ducky7]

Why would he have ATss here... thats a float that bets...

 

[atlantafalcons0]

Why would he have ATss here... thats a float that bets...

I've already explained that even if he bets $13, you can still call and end up paying the exact same amount of money to see the river. Do you get that part????