MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[RamdeeBen]

He might not fold those hands ram but we can be sure he is never raising them. The bottom of his range is sets.

That's a fair point.

x/f brick turns is fine if we had direct odds to call otf - that is unless he gives us odds again.

Ok thanks.

It doesn't really matter if the bottom of his range is sets - we only have to call $1.70 into $6.05... And there's a decent chance MP comes along when we just call. I prob spazz-shove in game, but a call is probably correct.

I actually think probably calling is best thinking about it all now. Cheers.

 

[RamdeeBen]

Villian is a 40/9..no 3bet.


I don't feel we have SD value so do you think we can turn our hand into a bluff here or not really?...I don't think he's ever fold Ax but do you think we can get Jx to fold if we bet big?

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $18.48
SB: $20.14
BB: $17.72
UTG: $17.47
CO: $16.00

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero has Q:heart: 9:heart:

UTG calls $0.16, fold, Hero raises to $0.64, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.48

Flop: ($1.52, 2 players) J:spade: A:heart: 9:club:
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.96, UTG calls $0.96

Turn: ($3.44, 2 players) 6:heart:
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($8.44, 2 players) 2:spade:
UTG checks, Hero ??

 

[ScottishMatt]

Don't bother betting river IMO. And to be entirely honest I'm not even betting flop, can't see him folding much better than a 9 and even though he is a moron I'm not sure how much value we can get. So check flop, call or bet turn and check river.

 

[RamdeeBen]

I tend to usually always cbet when I iso raise. Maybe a leak, especially vs this player to cbet I guess. I just felt he could have all sorts of draws/middle pocket pairs etc and maybe being hand orientated but I sometimes feel when I check back the flop; I always nearly face a turn stab & find a fold when they want to steal and have absolutely no idea where I am in a hand You're probs right though he's never folding Jx/9x on the flop.

When someone plays a hand so passively; I hate checking back the river and having them show up with like TT/Jx/9x which they might of folded had I just triple barrelled.

Thanks for input

 

[ScottishMatt]

I mean sure he might fold a J but you will find far more combos that contain an A within his range, all of which he is never folding.

 

[Yoshimiii]

I don't really want to fold there. I Probs cib and gii. Think he can do this with QJ KsQ and small flushes as well


Edit: ugghhhh never mind. I'm kind of second guessing myself now. Someone give a list of his hands and ill do an ev calc at work need to start doing more of that anyway

Very small part of his range (maybe not even raising QJ, KsQ) and we are still not in great shape.

 

[Yoshimiii]

It doesn't really matter if the bottom of his range is sets - we only have to call $1.70 into $6.05... And there's a decent chance MP comes along when we just call. I prob spazz-shove in game, but a call is probably correct.

What do you do if an A or a Q comes OTT? also unlikely 4 spade gets payed off, but ye a call is probably best actually as long as you don't get pot commited when A, Q hits turn if he doesn't give good odds.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Villian is a 40/9..no 3bet.


I don't feel we have SD value so do you think we can turn our hand into a bluff here or not really?...I don't think he's ever fold Ax but do you think we can get Jx to fold if we bet big?

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $18.48
SB: $20.14
BB: $17.72
UTG: $17.47
CO: $16.00

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero has Q<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='red'>♥</font>

UTG calls $0.16, fold, Hero raises to $0.64, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.48

Flop: ($1.52, 2 players) J<font color='black'>♠</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font> 9<font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.96, UTG calls $0.96

Turn: ($3.44, 2 players) 6<font color='red'>♥</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($8.44, 2 players) 2<font color='black'>♠</font>
UTG checks, Hero ??

Check Flop or bet alot smaller OTF, you fold out all worse PP's. Check turn, check river, don't bluff fish past flop, ever.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

What do you do if an A or a Q comes OTT? also unlikely 4 spade gets payed off, but ye a call is probably best actually as long as you don't get pot commited when A, Q hits turn if he doesn't give good odds.

If I put him on sets on the flop then I'm obviously check/folding a Q turn and checking and folding unless the price is right on an A (doubtful).

 

[Logan2]

I use table ninja, then join the waitlist of all the tables within my search criteria and if the tables are poor I leave and as I am waiting on around 20 tables, a new one pops up instantly. I just constantly keep joining wait-lists, especially if a table is poor or some breaking.

On table ninja you can set a maxmium amount of tables you want open at any one time so you don't have to keep crossing off new tables that pop up + they auto-load for me.

Really easy and useful.

Do you plan to get TN2 when TN1 get discontinued soon? I do have TN1 but was trying to play without load it because need to get use to not have it.
I don´t plan to buy TN2 and pay a fee every month to keep it, is BS when only play on 1 site.

 

[jsh169]

Interesting hand.

Villian is a TAG; 14/12 over 35 hands at zoom.

Given we lead out and get a cold caller and then a raise form a tightish player; what's the best line here? First thoughts are; this is never really a semi-bluff from this player (possible if he has pair + good flush draw I guess)

For all his range; flushes/two pairs/sets we're doing quite well agaisnt; like an 80% fav but I'm thinking this guy is likely raising two pair at worse with maybe a spade draw or sets..and vs that range we're only 35%.

Because we have TPTK +nut flush I'm never folding but..question is; do we flat call or just shove now?

I'm really unsure of the best line here because if we flat call and a spade hits the turn; this will likely shut him down unless he has KsQx. Although his range is really strong here, are we ok if we assume he has the absolute best range of hands, sets/two pairs we're not in great shape and even if we bink turn, we still have to dodge some outs.I also don't wanna fold him out if we shove, which isn't likely given he raised a cold caller. If the board pairs, it kills most action and if villain barrels turn I'm never happy. booo..whats best please?


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2254617
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $13.77
SB: $10.65
BB: $27.13
UTG: $11.44
Hero (UTG+1): $11.49
UTG+2: $4.01
MP1: $9.50
MP2: $20.34
CO: $26.45

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with Q ♦ A ♠
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.35) T ♠ Q ♠ 3 ♠ (4 players)
Hero bets $1, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $1, CO raises to $2.70, Hero ??

Ez fold. Yoshi please try and get your converter to work better, it confuses the hell out of me looking at it lol.

 

[pocketehs]

river decision? vs unknown 1 tabling player so most likely fish

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $29.35 (VPIP: 8.82, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 36)
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $25.13 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: $44.39 (VPIP: 35.38, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 71)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 22.90, PFR: 21.94, 3Bet Preflop: 9.57, Hands: 316)
BTN: $24.65 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J:diamond: 9:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.10, 2 players) 6:spade: 9:spade: 8:heart: Hero bets $3.00, BTN calls $3.00

Turn%s: ($11.10, 2 players) 4:heart: Hero checks, BTN bets $5.00, Hero calls $5.00


River%s: ($21.10, 2 players) 9:club: Hero

 

[pocketehs]

also, bet river here?

Full Tilt - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $32.93 (VPIP: 17.24, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 29)
UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 19.85, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 137)
CO: $15.31 (VPIP: 69.23, PFR: 30.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (BTN): $55.67
SB: $25.50 (VPIP: 21.18, PFR: 18.82, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 85)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:spade: Q:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, SB raises to $2.25, fold, Hero calls $1.63

Flop: ($4.75, 2 players) 6:club: 6:spade: 3:club: SB checks, Hero checks

Turn%s: ($4.75, 2 players) 7:diamond: SB bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25

River%s: ($11.25, 2 players) J:diamond: SB checks, Hero checks

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Hard to see what we get calls from since we rep exactly what we have - weakish trips - though in game I likely bet. My instinct for the best line was a x/c though, because I think he can probably bet worse on the river. Feels so nitty but I think x/c may be best.

With AQ, why would you want to bet river? WP imo. He basically can't have any PP's in his range on the flop, as it's the perfect board to bet for value, and it's also a pretty decent board to cbet complete junk with. Looks like a SDV hand like Ax I think? Then on the turn I'm not really sure what he's repping but imo he's never all that strong and a call is fine. On the river I don't think we can fold out any of his rando hands, and I expect to run into AK or AT a lot, so a bet doesn't seem to accomplish much. Unless I have some reason to believe he plays AK like this on the flop and turn but x/f the river, then just check behind and expect to take it down a ton. Laugh in his face when he turns over K4s or something.

 

[pocketehs]

honestly i dont even know why i posted that now hahaha i cant ever vbet river. i was just ingame and posted apparently.

What about the J9 hand scourrge?

 

[jsh169]

river decision? vs unknown 1 tabling player so most likely fish

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $29.35 (VPIP: 8.82, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $25.13 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: $44.39 (VPIP: 35.38, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 71)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 22.90, PFR: 21.94, 3Bet Preflop: 9.57, Hands: 316)
BTN: $24.65 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J♦ 9♦

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.10, 2 players) 6♠ 9♠ 8♥ Hero bets $3.00, BTN calls $3.00

Turn%s: ($11.10, 2 players) 4♥ Hero checks, BTN bets $5.00, Hero calls $5.00


River%s: ($21.10, 2 players) 9♣ Hero

Definitely bet/fold. You would be surprised that fish will easily call you down, and other people with like a 8 in this spot, not buying your story.

 

[jsh169]

Villian is a 40/9..no 3bet.


I don't feel we have SD value so do you think we can turn our hand into a bluff here or not really?...I don't think he's ever fold Ax but do you think we can get Jx to fold if we bet big?

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $18.48
SB: $20.14
BB: $17.72
UTG: $17.47
CO: $16.00

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: ($0.24) Hero has Q♥ 9♥

UTG calls $0.16, fold, Hero raises to $0.64, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.48

Flop: ($1.52, 2 players) J♠ A♥ 9♣
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.96, UTG calls $0.96

Turn: ($3.44, 2 players) 6♥
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50

River: ($8.44, 2 players) 2♠
UTG checks, Hero ??

Give up, or kiss your money goodbye. I've been called down by even bottom pair to guys like this. I've gotten alot better at that, but if the fish realize this I'm fairly exploitable, meaning for them, that when I'm betting I have something, then I'll need to change it up.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Jake -

1) Why not bet the turn? The 4 changes literally nothing, if we were good for value on the flop then we are still good for value on the turn. A fish most likely is never folding any FD/SD and I don't expect him to fold A8/87/ either. As played I think you have to lead river so I probably bet for 10-12 here and fold to a raise.

2) Am I the only person who fires flop . . . ?

 

[Cafeman]

1) Why not bet the turn? The 4 changes literally nothing, if we were good for value on the flop then we are still good for value on the turn. A fish most likely is never folding any FD/SD and I don't expect him to fold A8/87/ either. As played I think you have to lead river so I probably bet for 10-12 here and fold to a raise.

Isn't the pot like $21 with about $15 behind? This is an interesting hand. I'm on the fence.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Woops. I didn't even read the whole thing correctly. If we assume a fish then why are we 3-betting J9s OOP, surely we want a merged range here?

As played I think I prefer to jam river here now that I have actually payed some attention. With only TP here in a 3-bet pot OOP we are just such a goofy position so fold pre next time.

Sorry for not reading it correctly, it's been a long night.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Do you plan to get TN2 when TN1 get discontinued soon? I do have TN1 but was trying to play without load it because need to get use to not have it.
I don´t plan to buy TN2 and pay a fee every month to keep it, is BS when only play on 1 site.

I don't know , I was hoping that TN1 would still work.

 

[Yoshimiii]

river decision? vs unknown 1 tabling player so most likely fish

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $29.35 (VPIP: 8.82, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $25.13 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: $44.39 (VPIP: 35.38, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 71)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 22.90, PFR: 21.94, 3Bet Preflop: 9.57, Hands: 316)
BTN: $24.65 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J<font color='red'>♦</font> 9<font color='red'>♦</font>

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.75, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.10, 2 players) 6<font color='black'>♠</font> 9<font color='black'>♠</font> 8<font color='red'>♥</font> Hero bets $3.00, BTN calls $3.00

Turn%s: ($11.10, 2 players) 4<font color='red'>♥</font> Hero checks, BTN bets $5.00, Hero calls $5.00


River%s: ($21.10, 2 players) 9<font color='black'>♣</font> Hero

I would rather fold PF until I get stats on the villain. Probably bet/calling it off on river if I think villains a fish, check/calling river otherwise, however why are you 3 betting PF if u think he's a fish? adapt...

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Hard to see what we get calls from since we rep exactly what we have - weakish trips - though in game I likely bet. My instinct for the best line was a x/c though, because I think he can probably bet worse on the river. Feels so nitty but I think x/c may be best.

This was in reference to the J9 hand, sorry for not specifying.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

The thing is that the only worse 9s he should have are T9 and 97, and I doubt he calls with much worse than like 77, if that.

 

[micromachine]

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($6)
SB ($3.63)
Hero (BB) ($5.90)
UTG ($5)
MP ($7.14)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4

, K

3 folds, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.10) A

, 5

, 3

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.10) A

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.05, SB calls $0.05

River: ($0.20) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.80 (All-In), SB calls $3.53 (All-In)

Total pot: $7.26 | Rake: $0.30

Results below:
SB had J

, K

(flush, Ace high).
Hero had 4

, K

(straight flush, five high).
Outcome: Hero won $6.96