MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[AlfieAA]

it look like collusion to me...report then and stars will decide

 

[pocketehs]

Obvi fold here? Villain is 27/0/1 after 12 hands so relatively ineffective stats.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($0.61)
UTG ($1.95)
UTG+1 ($5.43)
MP1 ($1.80)
MP2 ($4.78)
CO ($8.44)
Hero (Button) ($5.03)
Villain (SB) ($6.21)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10

, K

UTG calls $0.05, 4 folds, Hero bets $0.20, Villain calls $0.18, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.65) 8

, 7

, 10

(3 players)
Villain checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, Villain raises to $6.01 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero folds

Total pot: $2.75 | Rake: $0.11

 

[micromachine]

Yep fold, I'm only calling if I know he's capable of doing this with draws/air, after 12 hands you know nothing

 

[orangepeeleo]

Yep fold, I'm only calling if I know he's capable of doing this with draws/air, after 12 hands you know nothing

Prob a major hole in my game, after 1200 hands I wont know if he does this with air or draws , never mind 12 lol

 

[micromachine]

Okay, I am $277, GL!

I'm $255 GOGOGO! (Except I'm going away so no playing for a week...but GOGOGO for Jan!) GL to you too. Peels you in on this informal race?

 

[pocketehs]

Yep fold, I'm only calling if I know he's capable of doing this with draws/air, after 12 hands you know nothing

Thanks Micro. Makes sense.


This hand sucks and Im a huge fish... 3 streets of value too greedy? check/call the river? Fold to the jam?

Villain: 15/6/1.5

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP2 ($5.73)
MP3 ($2.07)
CO ($9.28)
Villain (Button) ($6.10)
SB ($1.95)
BB ($2.50)
Hero (UTG) ($17.40)
UTG+1 ($5.69)
MP1 ($5.13)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

, A

Hero bets $0.20, 5 folds, Villain calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.47) 5

, 9

, A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, Villain calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.17) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Villain calls $0.80

River: ($2.77) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.95, Villain raises to $4.75 (All-In), Hero calls $2.80

 

[AlfieAA]

Thanks Micro. Makes sense.


This hand sucks... 3 streets of value too greedy? check/call the river? Fold to the jam?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP2 ($5.73)
MP3 ($2.07)
CO ($9.28)
Villain (Button) ($6.10)
SB ($1.95)
BB ($2.50)
Hero (UTG) ($17.40)
UTG+1 ($5.69)
MP1 ($5.13)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

, A

Hero bets $0.20, 5 folds, Villain calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.47) 5

, 9

, A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, Villain calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.17) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Villain calls $0.80

River: ($2.77) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.95, Villain raises to $4.75 (All-In), Hero calls $2.80

as played nh.....i suppose if you think he has quads you could fold to the jam but thats highly unlikely, no thats a fist pump snap call...deffo wouldnt check/call the river, need to go to valuetown here always...and you can never be too greedy ...wp

edit...or a boat...i need glasses.....well that changes things slightly.....but the chances he has that other remaining ace are pretty low....still as played

2nd edit....maybe a little tipsy so its not my fault......or he could have hit the set on the flop and boated with the 2 aces....damn im folding here.........i think


conclusion.....since he is a nit/tag and from the BTN im putting him on A5s....

 

[JOEBOB69]

Thanks Micro. Makes sense.


This hand sucks and Im a huge fish... 3 streets of value too greedy? check/call the river? Fold to the jam?

Villain: 15/6/1.5

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP2 ($5.73)
MP3 ($2.07)
CO ($9.28)
Villain (Button) ($6.10)
SB ($1.95)
BB ($2.50)
Hero (UTG) ($17.40)
UTG+1 ($5.69)
MP1 ($5.13)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

, A

Hero bets $0.20, 5 folds, Villain calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.47) 5

, 9

, A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, Villain calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.17) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Villain calls $0.80

River: ($2.77) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.95, Villain raises to $4.75 (All-In), Hero calls $2.80

NH,wp
Edit: villain could and will do this with sets,Ax

 

[Matt Vaughan]

NH. Never folding this.

 

[Logan2]

Okay, I am $277, GL!

I'm $255 GOGOGO! (Except I'm going away so no playing for a week...but GOGOGO for Jan!) GL to you too. Peels you in on this informal race?

Down 2 buyins, so $273, im in GL!!!

 

[pocketehs]

NH,wp
Edit: villain could and will do this with sets,Ax

NH. Never folding this.

I was just discussing this hand with Alfie and was wondering if this makes sense for his line and hand range..

When he flats pre flop, his hands could be like Axs, 22-88, AT-AQo, suited broadways, right?

On the flop when he just calls, its hard to put the villain on a set cos if hes tight-aggro why wouldnt he raise a EP raiser 3-way to the flop that has an A on it?

On the turn he just calls again, I think his range is narrowed down to a lot of worse Ax hands and flush draw from suited broadways cos I doubt he would raise a FD on a A high board because were never folding to a raise if we have a ace.

Any of this make sense or am I just overthinking it?

 

[AlfieAA]

I was just discussing this hand with Alfie and was wondering if this makes sense for his line and hand range..

When he flats pre flop, his hands could be like Axs, 22-88, AT-AQo, suited broadways, right?

On the flop when he just calls, its hard to put the villain on a set cos if hes tight-aggro why wouldnt he raise a EP raiser 3-way to the flop that has an A on it?

On the turn he just calls again, I think his range is narrowed down to a lot of worse Ax hands and flush draw from suited broadways cos I doubt he would raise a FD on a A high board because were never folding to a raise if we have a ace.

Any of this make sense or am I just overthinking it?

villians range is as said pre.......when the Ace hits the flop we can start deducting....you have shown strength with your EP raise.....so we remove 22>44 -66>88 from his range.....

when the 2nd Ace hits on the turn it doesnt change his range.....infact when the river hits it doesnt change either.....i know its obvious now but he hit his set OTF and stationed the **** out of it and fist pumped when the 2nd ace hit the turn.....he knew you had AK....his river jam was either a value bet or a reversed bluff with you putting him on a stone cold bluff which you wouldnt or an Ace bad kicker....thats the only hand thats worse that can raise here if semi bluffing........moral of the story, is that when a station in LP calls your pre EP raise and 2 aces dont scare him, you know he's got the boat....he had the nuts from the start........but i would have looked him up too although reluctantly.....you played it well but you will know the next time dude....



and you can never over think things....this is how we learn and become champs....now go and get drunk and snog a girl

PS 15/6 isnt that tight aggro....he is aggro with the top of his range pre and limps/calls his pocket pairs 22>1010....post flop he is a station IP on this hand because of his set and the aces on the board....and he's got you on the aces....no reason to re raise you on the flop/turn........he is doing onto us what we would do to them

 

[Logan2]

I was just discussing this hand with Alfie and was wondering if this makes sense for his line and hand range..

When he flats pre flop, his hands could be like Axs, 22-88, AT-AQo, suited broadways, right?

On the flop when he just calls, its hard to put the villain on a set cos if hes tight-aggro why wouldnt he raise a EP raiser 3-way to the flop that has an A on it?

Villain: 15/6/1.5

Villain is not aggro is passive and plays the hand that way.

 

[AlfieAA]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($1.59)
UTG+1 ($4.52)
Hero (MP1) ($2.57)
MP2 ($2.27)
CO ($2)
Button ($4.35)
SB ($2.19)
BB ($3.47)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4

, 4

UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.08, MP2 calls $0.08, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.27) 10

, 4

, 3

(3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.14, MP2 calls $0.14, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.55) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30

River: ($1.15) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.82, MP2 calls $0.82

Total pot: $2.79 | Rake: $0.10

Results:
Hero had 4

, 4

(three of a kind, fours).
MP2 didn't show
Outcome: Hero won $2.69



sorry honeycrush i couldnt help myself lol

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Alfie you said he's a station and then said we should know he has the nuts when he stations off? No. If a station stations, he has 2 cards that connect with the board somehow. Passive players usually let you know when they have the nuts by going apeshit aggro. And you can trust they have the nuts when they go crazy like that. When a passive player is stationing and I have trip aces with the best kicker, I'm not worrying about the times he has a full house. Maybe he has a FH sometimes (note this is only MAYBE b/c he will often let us know earlier), but this play is perfectly synced with any Ax imo.

Don't be results-oriented. Just cause he had a FH doesn't mean he always has a FH here.

Also, on the hand above ^ Alfie you need to bet bigger on every street. Stop worrying about people folding and just get some damn value. In most cases, betting bigger and getting a few more folds with your value hands will still be more profitable than betting smaller.

 

[AlfieAA]

Alfie you said he's a station and then said we should know he has the nuts when he stations off? No. If a station stations, he has 2 cards that connect with the board somehow. Passive players usually let you know when they have the nuts by going apeshit aggro. And you can trust they have the nuts when they go crazy like that. When a passive player is stationing and I have trip aces with the best kicker, I'm not worrying about the times he has a full house. Maybe he has a FH sometimes (note this is only MAYBE b/c he will often let us know earlier), but this play is perfectly synced with any Ax imo.

Don't be results-oriented. Just cause he had a FH doesn't mean he always has a FH here.

Also, on the hand above ^ Alfie you need to bet bigger on every street. Stop worrying about people folding and just get some damn value. In most cases, betting bigger and getting a few more folds with your value hands will still be more profitable than betting smaller.

But he was stationing IP......he didn't need to go ape shit until the river.....this is classic passive play....he knows he's passive....so if he went ape on the flop/turn the hero would sniff that out and insta fold...so the only way he can keep telling his 'passive image story' is to station particularly IP.....he got a dream board against an EP raise....guaranteed ace for hero means station it to river....


Its not a case of being results orientated, its putting people on ranges by thinking about there position/image/betting....no point in going auto and unless you know what you are doing....we need to learn the critical skills

 

[dsvw56]

But he was stationing IP......he didn't need to go ape shit until the river.....this is classic passive play....he knows he's passive....so if he went ape on the flop/turn the hero would sniff that out and insta fold...so the only way he can keep telling his 'passive image story' is to station particularly IP.....he got a dream board against an EP raise....guaranteed ace for hero means station it to river....

No. Just no. He doesn't know he's passive. He's not exploiting his image. He's a fish, he just does whatever seems like a good idea at the time. Stop looking for monsters under the bed, because they aren't there. Man up and start value towning bad players and making some money.

 

[dsvw56]

Also, on the hand above ^ Alfie you need to bet bigger on every street. Stop worrying about people folding and just get some damn value. In most cases, betting bigger and getting a few more folds with your value hands will still be more profitable than betting smaller.

And this, so much this. Betting too big is always better than betting too small at the micros. The most common mistake at the micros is calling too much. We exploit that by betting larger. There's very few instances where I ever bet less than 3/4 pot and there's always a very specific reason behind it.

Also, ship the +$30 day at 4NL. And hit 35k hands on the month today as well.

 

[dsvw56]

case in point about just shoveling money in to the pot for value. I made an extra 50bb here vs. if I had just made a PSB. And I'm positive the times he calls here vs. a PSB doesn't go down all that much. Guy was like a 50/6 drooler so theres no way he ever folds a flush or a 6 to my shove, probably not an ace either.


River: ($0.76) 4

5

2

2

3

SB checks, Hero bets $3.88 and is all-in, SB calls $2.77 and is all-in

Results: $6.30 pot ($0.42 rake)
Final Board: 4

5

2

2

3

SB showed 6

7

and lost (-$3.13 net)
Hero showed 2

4

and won $5.88 ($2.75 net)

 

[micromachine]

Down 2 buyins, so $273, im in GL!!!

A 3rd horse! GL. I'm due a heater btw so watch out

 

[Yoshimiii]

I was just discussing this hand with Alfie and was wondering if this makes sense for his line and hand range..

When he flats pre flop, his hands could be like Axs, 22-88, AT-AQo, suited broadways, right?

On the flop when he just calls, its hard to put the villain on a set cos if hes tight-aggro why wouldnt he raise a EP raiser 3-way to the flop that has an A on it?

On the turn he just calls again, I think his range is narrowed down to a lot of worse Ax hands and flush draw from suited broadways cos I doubt he would raise a FD on a A high board because were never folding to a raise if we have a ace.

Any of this make sense or am I just overthinking it?

You can't fold trip aces with a king kicker, if he has a full house then so be it.

 

[Logan2]

A 3rd horse! GL. I'm due a heater btw so watch out

3 more buyins down : $240 , gona cut 10nl for now

One Heater to go please!!

 

[honeycrush]

3 more buyins down : $240 , gona cut 10nl for now

One Heater to go please!!

Can you make that a double order please?

I'm down 5 buyins on 5NL. I hear 2NL calling my name...

 

[Yoshimiii]

Moving down to 5nl, just lost a stack to a fish due to a misclick pre-flop.

Should of checked river I think, Forgot that board blanks my kicker out.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2041648
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $18.73
CO: $10.55
BTN: $10.87
SB: $20.43
BB: $3.85
UTG: $24.19

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with J :heart: 8 :diamond:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.50) J :club: J :spade: 9 :club: (2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, SB calls $1

Turn: ($3.30) A :diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2

River: ($7.30) 7 :diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

Final Pot: $16.30
Hero shows J :heart: 8 :diamond: (three of a kind, Jacks)
SB shows J :diamond: K :heart: (three of a kind, Jacks - Ace+King kicker)
SB wins $15.57
(Rake: $0.73)

 

[AlfieAA]

And this, so much this. Betting too big is always better than betting too small at the micros. The most common mistake at the micros is calling too much. We exploit that by betting larger. There's very few instances where I ever bet less than 3/4 pot and there's always a very specific reason behind it.

Also, ship the +$30 day at 4NL. And hit 35k hands on the month today as well.

whats the reasons?