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/Logan/ said:
You know that making that comment about English accent is pretty much point people to focus on that, right?. sounds like a Rockstar:thrasher:
(a old rockstar of course because first minutes you sound like hyperventilating:D.)

Video quality is not that bad,

If color coding why not take out images? usually a distraction (at least for me).

Have so much time staking that keep the pace tiling is hard. First 5 minutes looks fine, will comment tomorrow when finished (1am here now).

Thx for loaded Ducky.

Guess an old rock star is a compliment, and ye i breath pretty heavy in general dno why soz :)

Will sort out the table sizes and quality for next time.. if there is one ha
 
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ScottishMatt said:
Guess I should have said "as played".

Alfie did say depending on his stats it is a fold to 3-bet, or 4-bet/fold. Pretty hard to 4-bet postflop in that scenario.

I didn't have any stats on him otherwise I would of posted them.. His min 4 bet looks strong here and I doubt he is folding to many 4 bets and we would then be having to go all in or fold a big 4 bet and shoving A/Q PF isn't good imo against an unknown, he could have an over-pair lower than aces. Also very hard to fold nut flush flops, just wondering if any of you guys would have check-folded that flop or taken another line. On the flop we are 38% chance to win, of course the fact the we have an Ace makes it 50% less likely that he has either an ace.
 
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We're approximately flipping vs a range of overpairs otf, shipping is trivial in this spot. I don't see a major problem with the entire hand tbh.
 
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A fold pre is ideal, other than that you played the hand exactly as I would have. Seems fine TBH.
 
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Agree on almost flipping, strong flop bet looks like mostly overs

Problem for me on those spots is that increase a ton variance, and i run very crappy on flips:( which bring me to a question.

Why we want situations where we are flipping in general?, if we are winning half the times and losing half the times means we end BE on long term, right? and adding rake when gii means with actually losing long term, no?


@Ducky, look half video, so far is good man. lot of 3b/4b good spots that usually don´t see in my level.


 
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If there was no money in the pot and we have to shove or fold for a flip, then folding is totally fine if you don't want the variance. In fact, I prefer this because I feel as though I have an edge and can therefore get it in way better further on in the game.
 
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/Logan/ said:


@Ducky, look half video, so far is good man. lot of 3b/4b good spots that usually don´t see in my level.


Ye there will be a lot more 3b'ing and 4b'ing as you get to probably 25/50 and a whole lot more at 100. You will notice i 3b nearly every hand i play in position
now this isnt a common thing, most people 3b a polarized range when 3b'ing for the simple reason to bluff off better hands and get value from worse.

However as people play fit / fold so often post flop in 3b pots OOP i can 3b and get them to call with all their SC and weak pair hands and some broadways and blow them off them post flop in position so i just make a ton of money from doing so. This is something ive only starting doing recently as im pretty confident i can outplay most players IP at these limits and have a post flop edge, along with understanding their range on each board
 
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Tough beat. I would not be inclined to 4b/F pre here because I don't feel AQs is a worthy enough hand to play so aggro pre flop.
 
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ScottishMatt said:
A fold pre is ideal, other than that you played the hand exactly as I would have. Seems fine TBH.

Really? an unkown almost min raises from blind on blind and you would fold A/Qs pre-flop? If there are any regs with huds then they could easily look at the 3b fold percentage and see it is way to high and exploit this in the future if I am folding A/Q type hands here. Although I wounder how many ppl actually have a H.U.D at 10nl...
 
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Yoshimiii said:
Really? an unkown almost min raises from blind on blind and you would fold A/Qs pre-flop? If there are any regs with huds then they could easily look at the 3b fold percentage and see it is way to high and exploit this in the future if I am folding A/Q type hands here. Although I wounder how many ppl actually have a H.U.D at 10nl...
Don´t forget efective stacks, we can´t just asume villain raise is weak because is 2.5 3bting, we are playing 50bb´s there. Don´t saying fold also, just that calling mean we should be ok to gii at some point, in that line then how hand was played was good.

About that regs could exploit you folding there, agree, but if this is a unknown then he also don´t have hands on us. So folding here vs unknown is not the same than folding vs reg.that you know his 3b range and that you can 4b. In general we should give credit to unknowns.

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Ye there will be a lot more 3b'ing and 4b'ing as you get to probably 25/50 and a whole lot more at 100. You will notice i 3b nearly every hand i play in position
now this isnt a common thing, most people 3b a polarized range when 3b'ing for the simple reason to bluff off better hands and get value from worse.

However as people play fit / fold so often post flop in 3b pots OOP i can 3b and get them to call with all their SC and weak pair hands and some broadways and blow them off them post flop in position so i just make a ton of money from doing so. This is something ive only starting doing recently as im pretty confident i can outplay most players IP at these limits and have a post flop edge, along with understanding their range on each board
Yeah i notice this because most of the fish on your tables are to your left but you don´t bother with that, you got position on them when you are on BTN and they on sb, but when you are on CO they have the BTN and there is when i struggle to play vs aggresive fish, so i ussually leave.
 
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Well I suck at 3-bet pots anyway. Just seems that vs an unknown you have to get a favourable flop in order to get any value, this was the best case scenario. So unless he is crazy, which we can't possibly know, then you essentially calling in order to get a chance of flipping vs him.

I wouldn't play the same way vs a reg as I would a fish, we can assume anyone at the table that has half a stack and min 3-bets is a fish.
 
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Where can i find this video of ducky playing like a fish?
 
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Enjoy
 
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acky100 said:
Where can i find this video of ducky playing like a fish?

lmfao
 
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Anyone notice how beautifully juicy games at 2nl were today! seriously complete fish at every seat every table...!!
 
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Jackle43 said:
Anyone notice how beautifully juicy games at 2nl were today! seriously complete fish at every seat every table...!!

Lol, I just did some 5nl deep stack 6 max poker and there were fish EVERYWHERE, up 5 buy ins from that session, it must be a national day off for Russians or something.
 
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Ducky7 said:
Ye there will be a lot more 3b'ing and 4b'ing as you get to probably 25/50 and a whole lot more at 100. You will notice i 3b nearly every hand i play in position
now this isnt a common thing, most people 3b a polarized range when 3b'ing for the simple reason to bluff off better hands and get value from worse.

However as people play fit / fold so often post flop in 3b pots OOP i can 3b and get them to call with all their SC and weak pair hands and some broadways and blow them off them post flop in position so i just make a ton of money from doing so. This is something ive only starting doing recently as im pretty confident i can outplay most players IP at these limits and have a post flop edge, along with understanding their range on each board

retarded thought process ITT, but if you're winning who am I to question
 
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Ducky7 said:
Ye there will be a lot more 3b'ing and 4b'ing as you get to probably 25/50 and a whole lot more at 100. You will notice i 3b nearly every hand i play in position
now this isnt a common thing, most people 3b a polarized range when 3b'ing for the simple reason to bluff off better hands and get value from worse.

However as people play fit / fold so often post flop in 3b pots OOP i can 3b and get them to call with all their SC and weak pair hands and some broadways and blow them off them post flop in position so i just make a ton of money from doing so. This is something ive only starting doing recently as im pretty confident i can outplay most players IP at these limits and have a post flop edge, along with understanding their range on each board

At the higher stakes people will start to 4bet u back I imagine as they see your massive 3bet% stat. This could become exploitable higher up.
 
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3 hands here:

I really think I should of folded/shoved here PF against his 4 bet as he can just cbet most flops and take it down and if he has a pocket pair and a king/Ace comes he can just check/fold.... probably did worst option by calling I think.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($2.15)
CO ($6.19)
Button ($4.80)
SB ($4.82)
Hero (BB) ($12.50)
UTG ($4.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A
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, K
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4 folds, SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.28, SB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.72

Flop: ($2) 3
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, J
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, 2
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(2 players)
SB bets $3.82 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $2 | Rake: $0.08

Results below:
SB didn't show

River is obviously the worst possible and I don't even think I am getting right odds to call river here so I folded. UTG is a passive fish. If the SB re-raised me I would of folded as I lose to all sets, J/K, and higher two pairs.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($5.41)
Hero (Button) ($12.50)
SB ($7.57)
BB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10
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, Q
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UTG calls $0.05, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.65) A
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, Q
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, 10
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(3 players)
SB bets $0.45, UTG calls $0.45, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.60) 2
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.15, UTG calls $2.15

River: ($7.90) J
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(2 players)
UTG bets $1.81 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $7.90 | Rake: $0.33

Results below:
UTG didn't show

Getting great odds here but MP snap raised my 4 bet instantly, I was 85% sure he had K/K, A/A. Looking back I think with the other guy in the pot I should of called it off and hoped for a queen.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($4.19)
BB ($5.13)
Hero (UTG) ($12.69)
MP ($3.81)
Button ($5.23)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q
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, Q
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Hero bets $0.15, MP raises to $0.50, 1 fold, SB calls $0.48, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.40, MP raises to $3.81 (All-In), SB calls $3.31, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.07) 3
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, 9
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, 6
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($9.07) 8
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($9.07) 9
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $9.07 | Rake: $0.38

Results below:
SB had A
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, J
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(one pair, nines).
MP had K
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, K
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(two pair, Kings and nines).
Outcome: MP won $8.69
 
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@Yoshi

Hand 1: Shove pre

Hand 3: Completely standard six handed.

Not sure about hand 2.

On another topic, someone add me to the cash group on skype?
 
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whats crazy is my 3b stat isnt that high coz i rarely 3b BvB or BvBTN which would increase it dramatically so i get away with it somewhat :) people do 4b light occasionally but i dont need to worry about 5b shoving light really yet (i do it occasionally) but for the times i get folds either pre or OTF i can just fold to 4b's for now
 
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OMGITSOVER9K said:
retarded thought process ITT, but if you're winning who am I to question

Your opinion... just coz you dont do it doesnt mean its wrong
 
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doomasiggy said:
@Yoshi

Hand 1: Shove pre

Hand 3: Completely standard six handed.

Not sure about hand 2.

On another topic, someone add me to the cash group on skype?

:eek: , there's a cash group? what do you do on it, review each others hands live?
 
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6max is the nuts guys, not really sure why never try it before, really never, not even on S&G´s.
 
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/Logan/ said:
6max is the nuts guys, not really sure why never try it before, really never, not even on S&G´s.

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