MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Logan2]

Don´t think is accurate for any stake tbf.
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[Logan2]

Can someone help me figure out how many hands I need to play to earn 266 VPPs? I want to hit the VIP Stellar Reward on Stars for $50 but Im not sure how to figure it out.

Done exams on Dec 18th so going to try to get that many VPPs at 2NL.

According to my database on 2nl FR 0.00933vpps by hand, so for 266vpps you gona need around 28510+ hands aprox.

 

[micromachine]

Lost 9 buy-ins at 10nl last night, Friday evenings meant to be easy money ffs. Think my KK ran into AA about 4 or 5 times, prob should've folded one of them when a nit 5bet (not shoved) me pre, I knew he was going to have AA but folding KK pre sucks balls. Dont think I tilted, maybe a little bit, should prob review and see.

 

[The Messiah]

someones deleted my post, but from the chart that i posted, its from ffppro which give rough vpp/hand, its obv going to vary depending on your playing style

 

[Yoshimiii]

Another stupid suck out. Keep getting sucked out today by fish so annoying.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2029308
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $14.23
MP: $17.29
CO: $10.00
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A :spade: A :heart:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, MP calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.25) Q :heart: 4 :diamond: 5 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP calls $2

Turn: ($6.25) 4 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP raises to $8, Hero calls $2.90 all in

River: ($20.05) 9 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $20.05
Hero shows A :spade: A :heart: (two pair, Aces and Fours)
MP shows 4 :spade: 4 :heart: (four of a kind, Fours)
MP wins $19.15
(Rake: $0.90)

 

[pocketehs]

someones deleted my post, but from the chart that i posted, its from ffppro which give rough vpp/hand, its obv going to vary depending on your playing style

Yeah thats weird but its...

2NL 6max: 0.033
2NL FR: 0.024
5NL 6max: .061
5NL FR: .041
10NL 6max: 0.101
10NL FR: 0.064

Thats going to be like insanely hard to get I think if its 0.024 for every dollar in rake. Thats how it works right?

 

[The Messiah]

your prob not looking for advice, but your flop bet sizing in 3 bet pots are too big consid some of the textures that your firing, it should be around 60% for the above eg.

 

[The Messiah]

Yeah thats weird but its...

2NL 6max: 0.033
2NL FR: 0.024
5NL 6max: .061
5NL FR: .041
10NL 6max: 0.101
10NL FR: 0.064

Thats going to be like insanely hard to get I think if its 0.024 for every dollar in rake. Thats how it works right?

tbh, im not sure..

On a side note, im going to be playing primarily 5nl with some 10nl tomo on PS as im attempting to give some friends a hand on developing their game and getting them out of the micros before the end of the year so if ppl are interested i might end of making a vid and since the majority of players here are micro players i can upload it here if ppl are interested.

 

[pocketehs]

tbh, im not sure..

On a side note, im going to be playing primarily 5nl with some 10nl tomo on PS as im attempting to give some friends a hand on developing their game and getting them out of the micros before the end of the year so if ppl are interested i might end of making a vid and since the majority of players here are micro players i can upload it here if ppl are interested.

I think I can speak for everyone here when I say that would be very much appreciated if you could upload it Messiah

 

[The Messiah]

I think I can speak for everyone here when I say that would be very much appreciated if you could upload it Messiah

cool, will post here when i start the session in case someones bored and wants to rail, prob best off to wait for vid tbh though.

 

[Yoshimiii]

your prob not looking for advice, but your flop bet sizing in 3 bet pots are too big consid some of the textures that your firing, it should be around 60% for the above eg.

No, advice is always welcome I just thought that I would want to bet near pot size seen as he is a fish to try and get stack sizes in by the river.

edit: I was pissed off when I posted that A/A vs 4/4, so any advice/analysis is always welcome.

 

[The Messiah]

No advice is always welcome I just thought that I would want to bet near pot size seen as he is a fish to try and get stack sizes in by the river.

ok cool, will go into a bit more detail then, lets just take the AA hand that you posted here for eg, basically we lose a lot of value from his flatting 3 bet range assuming its broadway,SS,Ax, and all PP. Ok so we get stacks in regardless of bet sizing if hes got Qx but this doesn't equate to a lot of the total range that he has here, we have to adapt our sizing to accommodate for his total range so that when he doesnt have Qx we still get value on flop, now because were accommodating for a bigger range, in the long run we will win more money.e.g its pretty easy for villain to get away from his lower than Q pp as hes not getting the right price to call, now if you bet say 60% then he can call and re-evalute turn, again on a turn card like this theres no need of a bigger bet than 60%, as his calling range will be narrowed to Qx,FD and some stronger PP if hes bad.
Basically its a lot better to lower our bets on board like these, as regardless lowering our bet sizing, there is more than enough room to get stacks in on river.
e.g

flop bet 1.35(60%). pot is now 4.95
turn bet 2.90 (60%). pot is now 10.75
river we have 4.65 remaining, which is about 40%, using this sizing over yours, guarantees lighter stack offs and thus more money long term

 

[AlfieAA]

Messiah vid ftw

 

[Yoshimiii]

ok cool, will go into a bit more detail then, lets just take the AA hand that you posted here for eg, basically we lose a lot of value from his flatting 3 bet range assuming its broadway,SS,Ax, and all PP. Ok so we get stacks in regardless of bet sizing if hes got Qx but this doesn't equate to a lot of the total range that he has here, we have to adapt our sizing to accommodate for his total range so that when he doesnt have Qx we still get value on flop, now because were accommodating for a bigger range, in the long run we will win more money.e.g its pretty easy for villain to get away from his lower than Q pp as hes not getting the right price to call, now if you bet say 60% then he can call and re-evalute turn, again on a turn card like this theres no need of a bigger bet than 60%, as his calling range will be narrowed to Qx,FD and some stronger PP if hes bad.
Basically its a lot better to lower our bets on board like these, as regardless lowering our bet sizing, there is more than enough room to get stacks in on river.
e.g

flop bet 1.35(60%). pot is now 4.95
turn bet 2.90 (60%). pot is now 10.75
river we have 4.65 remaining, which is about 40%, using this sizing over yours, guarantees lighter stack offs and thus more money long term

Thanks for explanation, In the future I will try to remember this.

 

[honeycrush]

Messiah vid ftw

Yes! Looking forward to seeingt this.

 

[Logan2]

Yeah thats weird but its...

2NL 6max: 0.033
2NL FR: 0.024
5NL 6max: .061
5NL FR: .041
10NL 6max: 0.101
10NL FR: 0.064

Thats going to be like insanely hard to get I think if its 0.024 for every dollar in rake. Thats how it works right?

No doc, those amounts are the amounts of vpp by hand, according to the site that post those stats for every hand you play on 2nl you are getting 0.024 vpps, but the numbers are incorrect, both on 2nl and 5nl my vpps for hand are almost half than those numbers so really don´t help you to get any idea.

Also for micros, 6max or FR get the same according to Stars page.

The vpps by dollar raked are this
EARNING VPPS AT MICROSTAKES CASH TABLES
These VPP earning rules apply to tables at the following limits, regardless of the number of seats and no matter how many players are actually seated or dealt in. VPPs for these No Limit and Pot Limit cash tables are awarded as below.
VPPs awarded per $1.00 USD in rake collected

$0.01/$0.02 10
$0.02/$0.05 8.5
$0.05/$0.10 7

HEM have the stars vpp option so i now for sure how many vpps i get by numbers of hands, the numbers i give you early are my exact numbers, but not sure if PT3 or PT4 have that option. If not i guess you can see your rake collected by X number of hands played and make some numbers.

 

[Logan2]

oh and +1 to Messiah video
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[Yoshimiii]

oh and +1 to Messiah video
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+2

 

[The Messiah]

il be starting the session shortly, will be playing 5nl exclusively, if things go well and ppl find it useful i will do a 10nl vid some time

 

[AlfieAA]

il be starting the session shortly, will be playing 5nl exclusively, if things go well and ppl find it useful i will do a 10nl vid some time

i will join the table if thats ok and you can critique my play along with the others...just searched you but you're not playing at the mo, or have youself hidden

 

[The Messiah]

i will join the table if thats ok and you can critique my play along with the others...just searched you but you're not playing at the mo, or have youself hidden

unhidden

edit; searchable now though

 

[pocketehs]

Watching a few tables right now while studying. Run good fellas! It will be interesting to see Messiahs win-rate after this session

 

[The Messiah]

Watching a few tables right now while studying. Run good fellas! It will be interesting to see Messiahs win-rate after this session

Having trouble with the recording aspect of things consid ive never done anything like this before, i thought i was recording myself and was there for like half an hour but when i went to review it wouldnt play, any body in the known when it comes to this?

Just finished my session were i got my first royal flush, it was being recorded and everything so kinda shit i cant view it by video, about time i hit the big one..

First time playing 5nl and as expected its pretty lol. was 12-16 tabling with like 3 HU games, I wont be playing this many when i get the video sorted as getting my thought process through while multi tabling is challenging.

Edit; currently winning at 36bb/100

 

[AlfieAA]

Watching a few tables right now while studying. Run good fellas! It will be interesting to see Messiahs win-rate after this session

started of great was up about 1 and a half buy ins then lost a buy in....quit while im even for the month haha...M was playing like 16 tables, thats alot of editing for his video

 

[AlfieAA]

congrats on the royal flush...and sick graph...better luck with the recording next time