MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

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Hey siggy,

Overall stats look fair, I'm not sure i remember what limits your playing or missed it if you mentioned so in general:

BTN: Probably can open up a tad here, the stat is good but if your playing against ppl who see that your range is a tad narrow here, open up your range to include 1/2 gappers, broadways, and almost any SC.


CO: Do the same and incorporate a few 3bet semi-bluffs, just widen a tad, villain sees a super strong CO/BTN range they are more likely to fold pre. Because we have position it makes it alot harder for villains to continue and outplay post, however, I'll say this a bit more later about this in this post, but lower your cbet stat, your probably making worse hands fold a bit too often with a 70%ish flop cbet.


MP: Probably again widen just a tad to 12% range, Its fine tbh but I think we miss alotta of good spots by being too tight, this is 6m afterall.

I like the EP range, I wonder do you open EP, but fold to 3bets often? If so don't be afraid to incorporate 4bets, OOP. also try playing with a polar range from time to time, as your stat has you with a very top strength range, which is good, but open up a bit vs. certain villains that will only give you a top 5% range, when you hit flops your hand is disguised.


SB/BB: I like the 3bet steal stat, defend the blinds is often very misunderstood, there is a right way and a wrong way to defend blinds.

But because i see that steal stat and your AF stat, I wonder if maybe you are again making worse hands fold without at least 1 more street of value, it would kinda make some sense given the highish flop cbet stat.

The other thing, and I did not see this stat, so if you could look it up and we can discuss it on skype later if you want, but what is you fold to flop cbet stat? If your losing a bit or just have a smaller winrate than you want, after looking at the stats the only other thing i can see is that you might be calling too much, re-raise shoving or re-raise folding too much.

The WTSD% stat is quality alotta ppl make the mistake of turning value hands into bluffs and seeing too many SD's (myself included).

Hope that helps with a few basic thoughts, we can try to look at some more info and if anyone sees something i got wrong please reply.
 
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How bad is this?

Only 4 hands on Villain but on fishy side because play 3 hands from those 4 and limping, not sure how much FE have on turn after he already call the squeeze and cb (i guess not much adding villain is 300bb´s deep) but that increase our implied odds right?.

lol to result, but make me think what should do here, i don´t like to jam but my options was to 2nd barrel, X/fold, X/C or jam, if i check turn and villain bet will be commited anyway if call but if miss don´t want x/f river , so jam looks better at the time, not sure now, maybe just 2nd barrel to like 1/2 pot and if miss x/f? (which gona be lol), also how is bet line pre and on flop, pre should make it less to like 40?.

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
BTN: $9.63
Hero (SB): $5.77
BB: $2.96
UTG: $16.55
UTG+1: $5.20
UTG+2: $3.00
MP1: $5.87
MP2: $5.91
CO: $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with Q
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A
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UTG calls $0.05, 4 folds, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.45, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.10) K
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9
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8
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.57, UTG calls $0.57

Turn: ($2.24) T
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(2 players)
Hero bets $4.70 all in, UTG calls $4.70

River: ($11.64) 3
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Final Pot: $11.64
Hero shows Q
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A
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(high card Ace)
UTG shows 7
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Q
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(high card King)
Hero wins $11.16
(Rake: $0.48)

 
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I hate shoving that turn. Think we have pretty close to 0 FE when fishy villain flats flop and that turn comes.
 
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Thats a god awful line.
 
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HAND 1
Villain is 35/2 over 57 hands.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
Merge
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($4.06) 102bb
UTG+1 ($6.19) 155bb
scourrge (CO) ($4.18) 105bb
BTN ($4.52) 113bb
SB ($3.88) 97bb
BB ($4.04) 101bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 6 players) scourrge is CO Q:club: Q:spade:
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.04, scourrge raises to $0.18, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.14

Flop: 3:club: 7:diamond: J:club: ($0.42, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.04, scourrge raises to $0.41, UTG+1 calls $0.37

Turn: 5:club: ($1.24, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.04, scourrge calls $0.04

River: 7:club: ($1.32, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.66, scourrge calls $0.66
Final Pot: $2.64
UTG+1 shows
9:club: K:club:

UTG+1 wins $2.50 (net +$1.21)

scourrge lost $1.29


HAND 2
Villain is 54/24 over 91 hands.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG ($4.18) 105bb
CO ($2.43) 61bb
scourrge (BTN) ($5.26) 132bb
SB ($12.05) 301bb
BB ($2.29) 57bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 5 players) scourrge is BTN K:club: A:heart:
2 folds, scourrge raises to $0.14, SB calls $0.12, 1 fold

Flop: 10:club: 5:heart: J:spade: ($0.32, 2 players)
SB checks, scourrge checks

Turn: K:heart: ($0.32, 2 players)
SB checks, scourrge bets $0.32, SB calls $0.32

River: 6:spade: ($0.96, 2 players)
SB checks, scourrge bets $0.72, SB goes all-in $11.59, scourrge goes all-in $4.08
Final Pot: $10.56
scourrge shows
K:club: A:heart:
SB shows
Q:spade: 9:club:

SB wins $23.56 (net +$11.51)

scourrge collects $0.00 (net -$5.26)



HAND 3
Villain is the same as in Hand 2.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
Merge
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Stacks:
scourrge (UTG) ($4) 100bb
CO ($4.18) 105bb
BTN ($9.57) 239bb
SB ($4.20) 105bb
BB ($2.61) 65bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 5 players) scourrge is UTG A:heart: A:club:
scourrge raises to $0.12, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.12, 2 folds

Flop: Q:spade: 6:heart: K:diamond: ($0.30, 2 players)
scourrge bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

Turn: 6:club: ($0.90, 2 players)
scourrge bets $0.90, BTN calls $0.90

River: 4:diamond: ($2.70, 2 players)
scourrge goes all-in $2.68, BTN calls $2.68
Final Pot: $8.06
scourrge shows
A:heart: A:club:
BTN shows
6:diamond: 5:spade:

BTN wins $7.62 (net +$3.62)

scourrge lost $4


HAND 4
Same villain as Hands 2 and 3.


$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
Merge
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($5.52) 138bb
CO ($4.24) 106bb
BTN ($2.73) 68bb
scourrge (SB) ($4.39) 110bb
BB ($4.06) 102bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 5 players) scourrge is SB 9:diamond: K:diamond:
UTG calls $0.04, 1 fold, BTN raises to $0.18, scourrge raises to $0.60, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.56, BTN folds

Flop: 8:heart: 10:heart: 7:diamond: ($1.42, 2 players)
scourrge bets $0.83, UTG goes all-in $4.92, scourrge goes all-in $2.96

Turn: 6:club: ($9, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: 6:heart: ($9, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $9
scourrge shows
9:diamond: K:diamond:
UTG shows
3:heart: 5:heart:

UTG wins $10.76 (net +$5.24)

BTN lost $0.18
scourrge lost $4.39



HAND 5
Main villain is 92/31 over 15 hands, villain on BTN is 73/33 over 17 hands. Much of this was short-handed though.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
BTN ($3.30) 83bb
SB ($4) 100bb
scourrge (BB) ($4.90) 123bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 3 players) scourrge is BB K:club: A:spade:
BTN calls $0.04, SB raises to $0.20, scourrge raises to $0.64, BTN calls $0.60, SB calls $0.44

Flop: 9:club: 7:diamond: 5:heart: ($1.92, 3 players)
SB bets $0.32, scourrge raises to $1.60, BTN folds, SB goes all-in $3.04, scourrge calls $1.76

Turn: 9:diamond: ($8.64, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 8:diamond: ($8.64, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $8.64
SB shows
K:heart: 8:spade:
scourrge shows
K:club: A:spade:

SB wins $8.16 (net +$4.16)

scourrge collects $0.00 (net -$4.00)
BTN lost $0.64



HAND 6
Villains are the same as in hand 5.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
scourrge (BTN) ($4.49) 112bb
SB ($3.54) 89bb
BB ($3.97) 99bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 3 players) scourrge is BTN J:heart: J:spade:
scourrge raises to $0.12, SB calls $0.10, BB calls $0.08

Flop: 4:club: Q:club: 10:heart: ($0.36, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.04, scourrge calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

Turn: 10:diamond: ($0.48, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.04, scourrge calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

River: 3:heart: ($0.60, 3 players)
SB bets $0.04, BB folds, scourrge calls $0.04
Final Pot: $0.68
scourrge shows
J:heart: J:spade:
SB shows
5:spade: 4:heart:

scourrge wins $0.65 (net +$0.41)

SB collects $0.00 (net -$0.24)
BB lost $0.20
 
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thoughts on this 2.

Hand1 think is a spew, probably should fold pre or x/f turn
Hand2 not sure on the fold, i think should bet more on turn.


Villain is 18/18 on 11 hands
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

BTN: $5.29
SB: $6.72
Hero (BB): $5.57
UTG: $10.83
UTG+1: $5.45
UTG+2: $4.57
MP1: $5.14
MP2: $5.66
CO: $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with A
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2
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6 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.62) K
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8
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9
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.34, BTN calls $0.34

Turn: ($1.30) 9
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.68, BTN calls $0.68

River: ($2.66) K
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.65, Hero raises to $4.25 all in, BTN folds

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Villain is 11/11 on 10 hands
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

BTN: $5.10
SB: $3.28
BB: $5.00
UTG: $6.82
UTG+1: $2.62
UTG+2: $11.91
Hero (MP1): $5.00
MP2: $4.52
CO: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP1 with Q
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A
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3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.37) Q
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A
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K
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.26, CO calls $0.26

Turn: ($0.89) 7
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.46, CO raises to $1.20, Hero folds
 
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Also, Zoom-Boom promo is on, anyone in?.
 
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/Logan/ said:
Also, Zoom-Boom promo is on, anyone in?.

think ill put a 12 hour zoom session in if its like last time, can you win the buyin more than once in the day? Last time you could and it was awesome
edit: looks like you cant just keep winning them all day :/ still KcKs isn't a bad choice of hands to win with lol, once a day for a week is alright i suppose i'll play!
 
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Look at my hands guys - I has money on Carbon so I can actually post HH's (at least til I bust my 5 BI roll :D )
 
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PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 12.60, PFR: 5.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 127)
SB: 51.5 BB
BB: 258.5 BB (VPIP: 21.97, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 132)
UTG: 120 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 60)
Hero (UTG+1): 114 BB
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP+1: 127 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 7.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
CO: 65.5 BB (VPIP: 74.74, PFR: 1.05, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 97)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:spade: Q:club:

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (12.5 BB, 3 players) 3:diamond: 5:heart: 4:club:
BB checks, UTG bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 18 BB, fold, UTG calls 13 BB

Turn: (48.5 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero bets 23 BB, UTG calls 23 BB

River: (94.5 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
UTG checks, Hero checks
 
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doom: I'd raise a little bigger on the flop. 27.5 bb would be potting it - I'd probably go like 22-25 bb. On the turn I like the bet, but again I think you can go bigger. Not a ton, but some. I don't think his range will be enormously elastic here, especially since it's 2nl, so squeeze in a bit more value. I think checking back the river is fine since 6x gets there, but I think we can negate a lot of combos of 6x since he checks the river. I think he's way more likely to donk a straight here. My bigger concern is a hand like A5 that had a pair and didn't want to go away and then backed into the straight. He might not donk an ace here. But I definitely think you still get value from 77-JJ. He's not raising many hands so it's conceivable that UTG would limp hands as strong as TT or even JJ.
 
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i can flat this right? its vs a reg

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $9.65
SB: $7.88
BB: $60.60 (VPIP: 25.23, PFR: 20.72, 3Bet Preflop: 5.38, Hands: 347)
UTG: $26.37
Hero (CO): $28.05

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:club: 6:club:

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.75
 
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pocketehs said:
i can flat this right? its vs a reg

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $9.65
SB: $7.88
BB: $60.60 (VPIP: 25.23, PFR: 20.72, 3Bet Preflop: 5.38, Hands: 347)
UTG: $26.37
Hero (CO): $28.05

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A<font color='black'>♣</font> 6<font color='black'>♣</font>

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.75

Depends if you can outplay him post I guess, and do you feel when you do hit you will get paid?
 
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so sick! i love it when things work out and we bink :)


PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $57.21
BB: $31.50
UTG: $13.06
Hero (MP): $33.86
CO: $18.17 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.71, Hands: 92)
BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 11.97, 3Bet Preflop: 7.84, Hands: 118)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K:club: A:diamond:

UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, fold, fold, SB raises to $3.25, fold, UTG raises to $5.75, Hero raises to $33.86 and is all-in, SB calls $30.61, UTG calls $7.31 and is all-in

Flop: ($81.03, 3 players) K:spade: 7:diamond: 8:club:
Turn%s: ($81.03, 3 players) 5:club:
River%s: ($81.03, 3 players) T:spade:

SB shows Q:club: Q:spade: (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 52%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows K:club: A:diamond: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 37%, Flop 94%, Turn 98%)
UTG shows Q:heart: A:heart: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 11%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $79.03

BTW is the 1k screenshot curse real? ;)
 
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Sick day

6.5BI plus 2 more BI from a Sunday Storm Satty bink.
And still was complaining because miss 1 more BI on Zoom promo:D

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Thanks for all the replies guys...
 
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Scourrge said:
HAND 1
Villain is 35/2 over 57 hands.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($4.06) 102bb
UTG+1 ($6.19) 155bb
scourrge (CO) ($4.18) 105bb
BTN ($4.52) 113bb
SB ($3.88) 97bb
BB ($4.04) 101bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 6 players) scourrge is CO Q Q
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.04, scourrge raises to $0.18, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.14

Flop: 3 7 J ($0.42, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.04, scourrge raises to $0.41, UTG+1 calls $0.37

Turn: 5 ($1.24, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.04, scourrge calls $0.04

River: 7 ($1.32, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.66, scourrge calls $0.66
Final Pot: $2.64
UTG+1 shows
9 K

UTG+1 wins $2.50 (net +$1.21)

scourrge lost $1.29


HAND 2
Villain is 54/24 over 91 hands.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
Merge
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($4.18) 105bb
CO ($2.43) 61bb
scourrge (BTN) ($5.26) 132bb
SB ($12.05) 301bb
BB ($2.29) 57bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 5 players) scourrge is BTN K A
2 folds, scourrge raises to $0.14, SB calls $0.12, 1 fold

Flop: 10 5 J ($0.32, 2 players)
SB checks, scourrge checks

Turn: K ($0.32, 2 players)
SB checks, scourrge bets $0.32, SB calls $0.32

River: 6 ($0.96, 2 players)
SB checks, scourrge bets $0.72, SB goes all-in $11.59, scourrge goes all-in $4.08
Final Pot: $10.56
scourrge shows
K A
SB shows
Q 9

SB wins $23.56 (net +$11.51)

scourrge collects $0.00 (net -$5.26)



HAND 3
Villain is the same as in Hand 2.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
Merge
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
scourrge (UTG) ($4) 100bb
CO ($4.18) 105bb
BTN ($9.57) 239bb
SB ($4.20) 105bb
BB ($2.61) 65bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 5 players) scourrge is UTG A A
scourrge raises to $0.12, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.12, 2 folds

Flop: Q 6 K ($0.30, 2 players)
scourrge bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

Turn: 6 ($0.90, 2 players)
scourrge bets $0.90, BTN calls $0.90

River: 4 ($2.70, 2 players)
scourrge goes all-in $2.68, BTN calls $2.68
Final Pot: $8.06
scourrge shows
A A
BTN shows
6 5

BTN wins $7.62 (net +$3.62)

scourrge lost $4


HAND 4
Same villain as Hands 2 and 3.


$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
Merge
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($5.52) 138bb
CO ($4.24) 106bb
BTN ($2.73) 68bb
scourrge (SB) ($4.39) 110bb
BB ($4.06) 102bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 5 players) scourrge is SB 9 K
UTG calls $0.04, 1 fold, BTN raises to $0.18, scourrge raises to $0.60, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.56, BTN folds

Flop: 8 10 7 ($1.42, 2 players)
scourrge bets $0.83, UTG goes all-in $4.92, scourrge goes all-in $2.96

Turn: 6 ($9, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: 6 ($9, 2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $9
scourrge shows
9 K
UTG shows
3 5

UTG wins $10.76 (net +$5.24)

BTN lost $0.18
scourrge lost $4.39



HAND 5
Main villain is 92/31 over 15 hands, villain on BTN is 73/33 over 17 hands. Much of this was short-handed though.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
BTN ($3.30) 83bb
SB ($4) 100bb
scourrge (BB) ($4.90) 123bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 3 players) scourrge is BB K A
BTN calls $0.04, SB raises to $0.20, scourrge raises to $0.64, BTN calls $0.60, SB calls $0.44

Flop: 9 7 5 ($1.92, 3 players)
SB bets $0.32, scourrge raises to $1.60, BTN folds, SB goes all-in $3.04, scourrge calls $1.76

Turn: 9 ($8.64, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 8 ($8.64, 2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $8.64
SB shows
K 8
scourrge shows
K A

SB wins $8.16 (net +$4.16)

scourrge collects $0.00 (net -$4.00)
BTN lost $0.64



HAND 6
Villains are the same as in hand 5.

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Stacks:
scourrge (BTN) ($4.49) 112bb
SB ($3.54) 89bb
BB ($3.97) 99bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 3 players) scourrge is BTN J J
scourrge raises to $0.12, SB calls $0.10, BB calls $0.08

Flop: 4 Q 10 ($0.36, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.04, scourrge calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

Turn: 10 ($0.48, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.04, scourrge calls $0.04, SB calls $0.04

River: 3 ($0.60, 3 players)
SB bets $0.04, BB folds, scourrge calls $0.04
Final Pot: $0.68
scourrge shows
J J
SB shows
5 4

scourrge wins $0.65 (net +$0.41)

SB collects $0.00 (net -$0.24)
BB lost $0.20

H1 villians line is so ****ed it makes it impossible to put him on a hand i think
eh...could have anything pre, otf & ott but the river hmmmmm...well the flush already got there on the turn so its not that...straight flush maybe lol...yeah weird line, river bet isnt a bluff i dont think though and Queen high flush isnt shabby...would call

H2 bet the flop, as played fold to shove on river...TPTK isnt good enough here i dont think

H3 Looks fine

H4 flat BTN'S raise pre, as played bet more OTF...

H5 fold flop, AK is crap against fish if it doesnt hit the flop hard..just spewing here i think...

H6 raise the flop, as played raise turn lol...eh yeah weird hand, i know its against two vilians but i think a raise can get one of the ****tards to fold..or maybe not...but theres no flush or straight draws so i think youre good to go in this hand against the two fish...played it abit passively i think...
 
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H5 I have to completely disagree... Did you even look at his stats? And then the spoiler lol? He shipped it in with a K-high gutshot, so I'm pretty sure it's not that spewy on my part but ok. Guess that might be results oriented but he is like a 90/30 or whatever.

H6 I don't want to get them to fold the part of their range I beat and I just wanted to play a small pot. I like raising the flop at least some of the time, but not raising the turn I don't think.
 
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Scourrge said:
H5 I have to completely disagree... Did you even look at his stats? And then the spoiler lol? He shipped it in with a K-high gutshot, so I'm pretty sure it's not that spewy on my part but ok. Guess that might be results oriented but he is like a 90/30 or whatever.

H6 I don't want to get them to fold the part of their range I beat and I just wanted to play a small pot. I like raising the flop at least some of the time, but not raising the turn I don't think.

his high stats means that he's even more likely to hit the flop....its not results orientated, its standard micro play...overplaying AK against a fish is a leak and will cost you money...nope never looked at the spoilers, not much point otherwise you wouldn't be able to give an opinion based on the unknown of the hand....and on the other hand, you need to raise it up, no point in being a station down to the river...coz you know he would have hit a hand along the way coz it was so cheap...value bet, make the ****s pay, or slowplay and get ****ed over....up to you playa....forget about putting these guys on ranges....they are level 1 thinkers...you only need to play level 2...keep all teh fancy stuff for live or 25nl>
 
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Seriously no offense, but saying "forget about ranges" is probably one of the worst pieces of advice I have ever seen lol. Ranges are the base of poker. To stop thinking about them is to stop playing poker.

And just because he's slightly (SLIGHTLY) more likely to hit the board because of his wide range, he's far more likely to be spewing in every single hand he plays (which he was btw).

You're basically giving conflicting advice imo. You want me to not go for thin value on Hand 5 (which is basically what I'm doing in essence), but you want me to go for really thin value on Hand 6, where I have SDV. I agree I can raise the flop on Hand 6, but these are the same villains in those hands - not sure why you are interpreting the villains so differently.
 
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Scourrge said:
Seriously no offense, but saying "forget about ranges" is probably one of the worst pieces of advice I have ever seen lol. Ranges are the base of poker. To stop thinking about them is to stop playing poker.

And just because he's slightly (SLIGHTLY) more likely to hit the board because of his wide range, he's far more likely to be spewing in every single hand he plays (which he was btw).

You're basically giving conflicting advice imo. You want me to not go for thin value on Hand 5 (which is basically what I'm doing in essence), but you want me to go for really thin value on Hand 6, where I have SDV. I agree I can raise the flop on Hand 6, but these are the same villains in those hands - not sure why you are interpreting the villains so differently.

the majority of the guys at this level dont think about ranges...even half the regs dont know what a range is....(i barely know myself)....so how can you put fish on ranges and expect them to use their range in the way you want with your actions against theirs.....i suppose the only you can do V a fish is base their range on their actions *because position means **** all to them*...and the texture of the flop...so you have to do a little gambool with hands like AK and hope to catch on the turn or you know you need to gtfo....although im just giving up on AK if i dont hit the flop, lost too much trying to bluff fish...but you cant honestly discount that the fish have hit and hero call them down....or maybe you can, maybe you are a master at action/flop/hand deduction...but its prob best for us mere mortals to value bet when we have good equity and fold missed flops, regardless of vilians range....coz they will call down with bottom pair, although their favourite is always two pair on the river.....

i cant remember the hands you are talking about and i cant be arsed going over it again so i will have a guess.....if you are gonna continue in the hand with a draw then its prob best to take the initiative and bet out, instead of calling down min bets then pumping the river when you hit....if you have shit equity then just fold...and with the AK's i would prob cbet a fair bit but as soon as fish call/raise then its cheerio time if ive missed the flop...i dont think you can use ranges as effectively as you say against these guys...its a case of getting dealt good cards and hoping you hit the flop then valuetowning them, and if you get sucked out so be it...i dont think you can do it by being tricky and playing marginal hands...and i deffo dont think you can do it by taking weird lines with bets....standard raise/cbet/double/triple ...ching ching...is the way....i would even encourage donk bets, im a big fan......clearly i dont know what im talking about and it doesnt really matter does it....because you already know this stuff and more....ive just wasted my time while talking absolute shite....terrific
 
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i cant remember the hands you are talking about and i cant be arsed going over it again so i will have a guess.....if you are gonna continue in the hand with a draw

Sorry but I only skimmed after this part lol... Since neither of the hands were draws. :stupido2:
 
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Anyway more to the point, haven't you been playing poker for like 10 years....why in the ****ety are you still at 4nl LOL
 
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Handbags are out in the Microcrushers thread!
 
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