Moving on up, Cash Game Thread

[Mr Sandbag]

I wouldn't mind raising pre unless it's a loose table and you're getting called by both a ton.

Raise turn. SB can have a lot of worse two pair combos, draws, etc.

 

[duggs]

agree with sand

 

[IPlay]

Back at it

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 5)
Hero (SB): 99 BB
BB: 107.6 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 107.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 5)
MP: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8:club: 8:diamond:

UTG raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.6 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 4 players) 8:spade: 5:spade: T:spade:
Hero bets 6.4 BB, BB calls 6.4 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (20.8 BB, 2 players) 2:club:
Hero bets 14.4 BB, BB calls 14.4 BB

River: (49.6 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
Hero ???

 

[IPlay]

Pretty steady climb, got about 700 hands in this afternoon and bankroll is at $154.69, might 4 table 10NL later tonight. Maybe do 2 5NL and 2 10NL, I'll have to see what tables are looking good.

 

[MinhANguyen]

Back at it

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (SB): 99 BB
BB: 107.6 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 107.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 5)
MP: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8<font color='black'>♣</font> 8<font color='red'>♦</font>

UTG raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.6 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 4 players) 8<font color='black'>♠</font> 5<font color='black'>♠</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero bets 6.4 BB, BB calls 6.4 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (20.8 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero bets 14.4 BB, BB calls 14.4 BB

River: (49.6 BB, 2 players) T<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero ???

CRAI on the river. His range consists of TP, draws, and very occasionally sets. This is actually a good spot to be donking out sets, as check-raising chases out a lot of other 2nd best hands and isolates ourselves against sets or overpairs with a big spade. Also, you don't really want the pot to check around if one or more people are on a draw, and don't want to bet in fear of getting check-raised.

You're showing a lot of strength by CRAI OTR, but I doubt many villains at the micros are capable of folding trips. And he'll be getting such a good price to call, and it'll be hard for him to fold.

Also, if he has a draw, he's not paying off another bet, whatever the size is. But when the ten comes and you check, it will be very tempting for him to bluff at. I think checking is the much better play in this spot. He's always betting a 10 or full house for value, and we can get his whole stack. He's never raising the river with a lone 10, but will probably stack off if we CR. And if he was on a draw, it's going to be pretty tempting for him to bluff at the 10.

 

[IPlay]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100 BB
Hero (BTN): 108.3 BB
SB: 155.9 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:spade: J:heart:

Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond: 6:club: J:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 5.2 BB, SB calls 5.2 BB

Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 11.2 BB, SB calls 11.2 BB

River: (39.8 BB, 2 players) 5:club:
SB checks, Hero ???

 

[xdeucesx]

in

Use to play mid-stakes on BV in my prime. I think most of your hands look solid imo. For JJ, you can pretty safely b/f river imo.

 

[IPlay]

in

Use to play mid-stakes on BV in my prime. I think most of your hands look solid imo. For JJ, you can pretty safely b/f river imo.

Thanks man, welcome to the thread. I did go for a b/f but it felt supeerrrrr thin considering I have top set and every straight draw and flush draw got there. What is calling? He called and had flopped bottom set and decided to take a check call line with it..........

Got about 500 hands of 10NL in tonight and it kind of tilted me so I'm gonna go chill with the gf and watch Walking Dead. I played well but it was just variance catching up after my god run at 5NL, everyone folded to my premiums pre, they called when I had the middle of my range and I showed up with a few second best hands. Also lost most of my all ins but owell, bankroll is at $130.96 so my next session will probably be back at 5NL.

Cheers

 

[IPlay]

I think readless and at the micros, folding QQ to a 4-bet, especially a cold 4-bet, is fine. A 4-bet range is almost always KK or AA. With QQ or AK, most people at the micros want to see a flop when facing a 3-bet. Unless you have some history that villain is a maniac, a 3-bet fold QQ is perfectly fine at the micros. If anything, you're saving yourself a lot of money. Also here SB's PFR less than 9% and has a very high VPIP, which means he's very passive. He's never getting out of line here, and his 4-bet range crushes QQ.

He had KK

CRAI on the river. His range consists of TP, draws, and very occasionally sets. This is actually a good spot to be donking out sets, as check-raising chases out a lot of other 2nd best hands and isolates ourselves against sets or overpairs with a big spade. Also, you don't really want the pot to check around if one or more people are on a draw, and don't want to bet in fear of getting check-raised.

You're showing a lot of strength by CRAI OTR, but I doubt many villains at the micros are capable of folding trips. And he'll be getting such a good price to call, and it'll be hard for him to fold.

Also, if he has a draw, he's not paying off another bet, whatever the size is. But when the ten comes and you check, it will be very tempting for him to bluff at. I think checking is the much better play in this spot. He's always betting a 10 or full house for value, and we can get his whole stack. He's never raising the river with a lone 10, but will probably stack off if we CR. And if he was on a draw, it's going to be pretty tempting for him to bluff at the 10.

I overbet jammed river thinking he is never folding a flush or ten here and I am not sure if he is bluffing too often after the strength I showed. I think he called with 99???

 

[IPlay]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 132.2 BB (VPIP: 10.91, PFR: 7.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
Hero (BB): 103.2 BB
UTG: 109.8 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 30)
CO: 113.1 BB (VPIP: 31.37, PFR: 21.57, 3Bet Preflop: 19.05, Hands: 51)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:club: T:heart:

fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) J:heart: T:diamond: 7:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 36.5 BB, BTN calls 26.5 BB

[spoil]Hero shows 8:club: T:heart: (Straight Flush, Jack High)

Hero wins 85.1 BB
[/spoil]

 

[IPlay]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 164.4 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 11.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG: 98 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 227.2 BB (VPIP: 51.22, PFR: 29.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
CO: 98.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (BTN): 165.3 BB
SB: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 25.58, PFR: 9.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:spade: 8:spade:

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 7:club: K:club: 9:diamond:
SB checks, MP bets 6 BB, fold, fold

MP wins 9.5 BB

He has folded to 2/3 3bets both by me on the button. Do I keep pounding and 3 bet again or are we deep enough for me to flat on the btn vs a fish?

 

[Aces2w1n]

Probably no point 3betting, that board will hit our villains hand.

I think if we continue here we can definetly get ourselves into trouble, we hit our T and we still could be dominated with hands like J8 and flush draws still to come.

We want to be drawing to the nuts or have him dominated which we don't.

 

[Aces2w1n]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 132.2 BB (VPIP: 10.91, PFR: 7.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
Hero (BB): 103.2 BB
UTG: 109.8 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 30)
CO: 113.1 BB (VPIP: 31.37, PFR: 21.57, 3Bet Preflop: 19.05, Hands: 51)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8<font color='black'>♣</font> T<font color='red'>♥</font>

fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) J<font color='red'>♥</font> T<font color='red'>♦</font> 7<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 8<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (16.5 BB, 2 players) 9<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 36.5 BB, BTN calls 26.5 BB

[spoil]Hero shows 8<font color='black'>♣</font> T<font color='red'>♥</font> (Straight Flush, Jack High)

Hero wins 85.1 BB
[/spoil]

lol nice luckbox river

dunno whats more amazing you got the card or you got paid off lol.

 

[IPlay]

Had a great little 600 hand session, about 5 buy ins. Bank roll $179.56

I meant 3 bet pre, never continuing that flop.

He had Ah

 

[Aces2w1n]

Ooo nice

 

[bitowl]

Question is, when I spike king on river am I value betting it?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 125.2 BB (VPIP: 67.74, PFR: 25.81, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 31)
Hero (BB): 163.6 BB
UTG: 1.8 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 30 BB
BTN: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 26.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 50)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has K<font color='black'>♠</font> J<font color='red'>♥</font>

fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.4 BB, 2 players) 5<font color='black'>♣</font> 3<font color='black'>♠</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero checks, CO bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, CO calls 3 BB

Turn: (12.4 BB, 2 players) 7<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero bets 7.4 BB, CO calls 7.4 BB

River: (27.2 BB, 2 players) K<font color='red'>♥</font>

Hero ??? (About 17BB effective)

Anything less than a jam is a waste of your good fortune imo.

I've been thinking of migrating from WPN to bovada so we may play in the same games one day. gl.

 

[bitowl]

Had a great little 600 hand session, about 5 buy ins. Bank roll $179.56

What kind of BRM are you using? I'm in a similar position, was playing 10-25nl on wpn but recently pulled 3/4 of my roll off the site to ride this bitcoin bubble. I had $100 left and ground up to about 150 from 5nl and just started mixing in full ring 10nl.

I used 4 buyin shots for 25nl whenever I made it to 500$ but fell back to 10nl twice. I'm looking for a new strategy since that didn't work for me psychologically... basically punted off stacks once I fell below 450 so it was more like an expensive 2 buyin shot.

 

[IPlay]

@Bitowl, I said it in OP but I am going pretty aggressive until I get to 25NL because I am confident in beating that level. 5NL to $150, 10NL to $250 then taking shots at 25NL and dropping back to 10NL at 200. This is on Bovada though and the games are super soft

Like this hand soft

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 140.9 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
BTN: 66.3 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB: 110 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 96.1 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (UTG): 114 BB
MP: 30 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:heart: 8:diamond:

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (13 BB, 4 players) 8:spade: 6:heart: 8:club:
SB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (27 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
SB bets 13.5 BB, Hero calls 13.5 BB

River: (54 BB, 2 players) 3:club:
SB bets 35 BB, Hero raises to 90.5 BB and is all-in, SB calls 51.5 BB and is all-in

Villain had 5d5h

 

[IPlay]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 137.9 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
BTN: 94 BB (VPIP: 52.63, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB: 103.8 BB (VPIP: 46.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (BB): 218.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: 9:club:

fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) K:diamond: T:spade: 6:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB

Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets 7.5 BB, Hero raises to 26.5 BB, BTN raises to 50 BB, Hero raises to 163.5 BB, BTN calls 37.5 BB and is all-in

River: (188.5 BB, 2 players) 2:club:

This hand was against the same villain, I would usually 3b this hand pre but villain is not really folding anything to me. Is getting it in on turn standard vs this villain in this spot? I'm never folding river anyway so might aswell get value from turned draws here?

 

[IPlay]

When back to back hands make your session. I am probably viewed as pretty aggro on this table and got caught bluffing more then once.

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 288.9 BB (VPIP: 57.58, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 70)
SB: 106.7 BB (VPIP: 55.00, PFR: 35.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 20)
Hero (BB): 102.7 BB
UTG: 72.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
MP: 91 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 264.2 BB (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 24.07, 3Bet Preflop: 18.75, Hands: 55)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:heart: Q:spade:

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, SB calls 8 BB

Flop: (22 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond: T:club: 3:heart:
SB checks, Hero bets 16.2 BB, SB calls 16.2 BB

Turn: (54.4 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 36.2 BB, SB calls 36.2 BB

River: (126.8 BB, 2 players) 4:heart:
SB checks, Hero raises to 39.3 BB and is all-in, SB calls 39.3 BB

Villain held 87o

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 288.9 BB (VPIP: 56.72, PFR: 20.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 71)
BTN: 4 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 38.10, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 21)
Hero (SB): 195.2 BB
BB: 72.5 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 264.2 BB (VPIP: 23.64, PFR: 23.64, 3Bet Preflop: 18.75, Hands: 56)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: A:heart:

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, CO calls 8 BB

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) K:spade: A:club: K:diamond:
Hero bets 14.2 BB, CO calls 14.2 BB

Turn: (51.4 BB, 2 players) J:heart:
Hero bets 36.2 BB, CO calls 36.2 BB

River: (123.8 BB, 2 players) T:spade:
Hero raises to 133.8 BB and is all-in, CO calls 133.8 BB

Villain held A8

 

[bitowl]

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) K<font color='red'>♦</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font> 6<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB

Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) 9<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero checks, BTN bets 7.5 BB, Hero raises to 26.5 BB, BTN raises to 50 BB, Hero raises to 163.5 BB, BTN calls 37.5 BB and is all-in

River: (188.5 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='black'>♣</font>

Problem is youre in bad shape vs his value range bc QJ and 87 are a ton of combos and he's opening them all offsuit on the btn.

equity Win Tie
MP2 30.89% 30.89% 0.00% Kc9c
MP3 69.11% 69.11% 0.00% KK+, TT-99, 66, KTs, QJs, T9s, 96s, 87s, KTo, QJo, T9o, 96o, 87o

you have to throw in a ton of pair+draw's to make it a slam dunk

Equity Win Tie
MP2 52.71% 52.71% 0.00% Kc9c
MP3 47.29% 47.29% 0.00% KK+, TT-99, 66, KTs, QJs, T9s, 96s, QdTd, QsTs, JdTd, JsTs, Qd9d, Qs9s, Jd9d, Js9s, Jd8d, Js8s, Td8d, Ts8s, 9d8d, 9s8s, 9d7d, 9s7s, 8d7d, 8s7s, 8d6d, 8s6s, 7d6d, 7s6s, 7d5d, 7s5s, KTo, QJo, T9o, 96o+, 86o+, 76o


Assuming he never folds to your jam you need 87.5÷(94×2)= ~46.5% equity vs his range.

I think its a jam or soul read fold, either way its a pretty thin edge imo. I think reading too much into metagame is a leak and it never works out for me, so I think his 3bet range on the turn is probably a lot stronger than you think even though he 3 barreled into quads earlier.

 

[IPlay]

Are you ever outright folding to turn 3bet?

 

[IPlay]

Decent session again, wanted 2k hands today but got closer to around 1900. Won about 4.5 buy ins.

BR $226.94, may be taking shots at 25NL by Thursday. Will start to get into some tougher spots more often at those stakes so should have some fun hands to post.

 

[MinhANguyen]

Where do you play at? The 10NL players you're playing seem to be really really soft. I busted at 10NL twice, but that was when I had tilt issues and was not that great of a player. Skipped 10NL entirely my 4th time around and now playing solidly at 25NL. Good job though!

 

[IPlay]

Where do you play at? The 10NL players you're playing seem to be really really soft. I busted at 10NL twice, but that was when I had tilt issues and was not that great of a player. Skipped 10NL entirely my 4th time around and now playing solidly at 25NL. Good job though!

Bovada, and yeah it is super soft if you table select well. No rb or anything though and I hear higher rake then most sites. I am pretty sure it is up to $2 at 25NL, not sure where other sites are at though.