Out Odds vs. Pot Odds

[quintass]

Im figuring out my out odds vs. pot odds more often during a game and finding it very helpful. Its a bit overwhelming at first doing all that math in your head with only a few seconds to act, but there are some shortcuts you can take that make it easier. I will use this in my home games for sure

 

[Frenzuh]

i dont understand your post??? are u just making a statement?

 

[Kenzie 96]

The more information you have in making your decisions, the better the decisions, in the long run.

 

[FryGuy14]

Im figuring out my out odds vs. pot odds more often during a game and finding it very helpful. Its a bit overwhelming at first doing all that math in your head with only a few seconds to act, but there are some shortcuts you can take that make it easier. I will use this in my home games for sure

What are these shortcuts you are talking about? I am seriously terrible with math in general and any help would be good.

 

[KerouacsDog]

Drawing to X outs: (46-X) / X : 1.

This is the generic formula. If you're another draw than the ones I've listed above, and want to figure out your odds for it, you do this: Figure out your number of outs (you're on your own there), then take 46 minus this number. Divide the result by the number of outs, and voila - you have your odds. For example, if I'm drawing both to a set and to a flush, e.g. I have reason to believe my opponent has two pair, and I have AA, with four to a flush, my outs are any ace (giving me a set) plus 9 flush cards (giving me a flush), totalling 11 outs. This gives:
46 - 11 = 35.
35 / 11 = 3.2
My odds of drawing a winner are 3.2 : 1

This is from the strategy section at CardsChat.
One question from me, why is it 46, and not 47? Maybe Im being dumb?

 

[feitr]

Or you can just do 2 x outs + 2 = % of hitting on river after turn (2 x outs + 1 if you have <5 outs) and 4 x outs = % of hitting on turn or river (this gets pretty inaccurate once you have lots of outs however). It isn't practical to do accurate calculations in your head during a hand.

@ Kerouacs

That formula must be the odds of hitting on the river after the turn so there are 52 - 4 (board) - 2 (your hand) = 46 cards left in the deck.

@OP

Out odds and pot odds are related. ie. if you are deepstacked and think you have 12 outs on the river then it is a call if you are getting > 4:1 on your money. You can't even calculate your pot odds without calculating your out odds. Doesn't matter if you are getting 10:1 on your money if you are drawing to two outs.

 

[KerouacsDog]

thanks feitr, i had forgotten the quick way of working out odds roughly.
I hadnt thought that that other formula was for one card to come, thats why then.
feitr, wasnt you on my table at the PS freeroll yesterday?

 

[feitr]

Yea that was me Was the first CC freeroll i'd played and thought i'd give it a go. About 5 mins in i remembed why i don't play freerolls anymore lol. Kinda hard to play seriously when you have to get 1st to get any sort of prize...however i did get to meet my new hero--GOGOGOGO 2INCHER!!!!

 

[KerouacsDog]

2incher, that was the guy who took me out, he was so serious about the game, lol

 

[beardyian]

When facing the turn & river to come simply multiply your outs by 4 and when just the river is to come multiply by 2.

Although not exact these will give you a quick and rough idea on what your percentage is.