Why is it so difficult to drop a Top Pair?

[wsbar]

There is no shame in giving up your letters. Many beginners continue to bet or pay knowing that the chance of winning is minimal. Sometimes there is Flush Drow on the board, sometimes there is Straight Drow on the Board, it's still like that, I can not fold my Top Pair or Two Pair.A very important skill for beginning Texas Hold'em players is the ability to read the board. This means being able to look at the community cards on the table and calculate the strongest hands possible:deal:.

 

[zavvt]

yes i know, ive lost so many times not folding the top pair..

 

[Sil3ntness]

Usually on average two pair is the winning showdown hand. The key to getting to showdown is playing pot sizes based on the strength of your hand.

Stack to pot ratio is very important when betting or calling bets. If you are playing for 100 Big Blind stacks and you only have a decent pair you are probably most likely in trouble unless Villain is a maniac and likes to bet with air or missed draws.

Like wsbar said, you definitely have to read the board when calling river bets. Did the flush/straight draws miss then you can use your hand as a bluff catcher. On super wet boards, it is not bad to just give up and let them win the pot. Relative hand strength is very important the bigger the pot becomes.

 

[wsbar]

Usually on average two pair is the winning showdown hand. The key to getting to showdown is playing pot sizes based on the strength of your hand.

Stack to pot ratio is very important when betting or calling bets. If you are playing for 100 Big Blind stacks and you only have a decent pair you are probably most likely in trouble unless Villain is a maniac and likes to bet with air or missed draws.

Like wsbar said, you definitely have to read the board when calling river bets. Did the flush/straight draws miss then you can use your hand as a bluff catcher. On super wet boards, it is not bad to just give up and let them win the pot. Relative hand strength is very important the bigger the pot becomes.

My Bro, is this kind of answer that appeals to any beginner, I do not know how to play very well, but I also recognize that I'm not the worst, if I keep in touch with you and you help me, I'm sure be playing great tournaments.

 

[Alexsunshine229]

So true there is no shame in dropping top pair even though it's a decent hand.

 

[Fastone2]

Sometimes it is the best that I obtain.

 

[Douglas Gonzaga]

I've left so many times with AA, KK because I was sure that I was losing and did not make it out of the tournament in those moments.

 

[wsbar]

I need to acquire this ability, it also happens to me, I have AA in my hands, but it is notorious that I am losing due to the community cards and aggressiveness of the opponent, but even so I can not quit and finish leaving the tournament early.

 

[Garfield52]

i have lost with kk and AA many times to people that should not even have been in the hand let alone stay for the river card. been beaten by river rats many times. sometimes better to go with JQ or so ,

 

[koadyawn]

it's wishful thinking. We find any excuse to not fold..."he's overvaluing his top pair" "he's messing with me" "he is on a missed draw"...

 

[masik6]

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I rarely throw high pair and all because with such pairs like AA or KK I play once I push them differently nerazryvno so as not to get into an awkward situation so I don't have to choose .

 

[Dan Lucas]

You have made the exact point about board texture. You have to be able to evaluate what ranges your opponents play and how the betting has gone. Losing with KK or AA against donk players is all too common, even if you play the hand correctly. Unless you have the nuts, anything can happen with 5 community cards. But to be a very good player, you have to be able to fold. Sometimes you get bluffed off the best hand, sometimes you make a good read and save a bundle. There is always another hand when you fold.

 

[Actor247]

There is no shame in giving up your letters. Many beginners continue to bet or pay knowing that the chance of winning is minimal. Sometimes there is Flush Drow on the board, sometimes there is Straight Drow on the Board, it's still like that, I can not fold my Top Pair or Two Pair.A very important skill for beginning Texas Hold'em players is the ability to read the board. This means being able to look at the community cards on the table and calculate the strongest hands possible:deal:.

I totally agree with his statement actually..But it's very rare I fold my top pair depending on what it is..But sometimes you can read your opponents betting pattern to find out if they have top pair beat..such as an over pair..but yes you definitely need to be able to look at the board and find out whats the best possible hand out there..

 

[evildoesit2003]

It is always exciting to get dealt a top pair, that is why it is so hard to lay it down, just remember any 2 little pair can beat you is the way I try to think about it.

 

[Rational Madman]

My Bro, is this kind of answer that appeals to any beginner, I do not know how to play very well, but I also recognize that I'm not the worst, if I keep in touch with you and you help me, I'm sure be playing great tournaments.

This is the cash game area of the forums, why are you asking about tournament play?

 

[Andrei Lisovets]

Probably any player preflop, or when not fold, AA, KK, but after the flop, you need to calculate, discard cards or further press the opponent, depending on the bet, and the cards that fell on the flop, and it does not matter, the cash game is or tournament.

 

[wsbar]

Excuse me, my nobleman, I'm going to police myself to avoid this kind of unpleasant situation. And I think you're wrong, I'm asking why it's so difficult to drop a Top Pair or an overcard, regardless of tournament or cashgame.

 

[Dorugremon]

Many beginners continue to bet or pay knowing that the chance of winning is minimal. Sometimes there is Flush Drow on the board, sometimes there is Straight Drow on the Board, it's still like that, I can not fold my Top Pair or Two Pair.

Overplaying TPTK or a big overpair is a fish play that you see all the time. It's understandable: you miss ~two out of three flops. Then you flop that pair, and a lone pair is the majority of what you hit when you hit. YEAY! Now you can play!

It's not so bad if you're playing FLHE. Your TPTK takes a prat fall and all it costs you is a few bets. If it happens at no-limit, it can cost you your whole stack. Again, that's NBD if your opponent is short: if he wins he doesn't cripple your stack. If you break him, you can either free up his seat for a more well-heeled fish or make him reload. If stacks are deep, you want to keep that pot as small as possible, and if your opponent doesn't want to co-operate, then it's best to just let it go. There will be other possibilities down the line, but only if you have a stack.

Folding TPTK or pocket rockets is not an easy thing to do, but Poker itself isn't easy. If it were, then everybody would win. It doesn't work that way.

 

[dejan85]

if I have good kicker for example AJ,AND ON flope is Jack top,almoust I would never fold.....only set if someone have in my oppinion...

 

[Jordenandrew]

I think it's knowing they might be bluffing most of the time I catch players bluffing trying to steal the pot but if you have the chips to call and have some to lose I would call.

 

[wsbar]

Overplaying TPTK or a big overpair is a fish play that you see all the time. It's understandable: you miss ~two out of three flops. Then you flop that pair, and a lone pair is the majority of what you hit when you hit. YEAY! Now you can play!

It's not so bad if you're playing FLHE. Your TPTK takes a prat fall and all it costs you is a few bets. If it happens at no-limit, it can cost you your whole stack. Again, that's NBD if your opponent is short: if he wins he doesn't cripple your stack. If you break him, you can either free up his seat for a more well-heeled fish or make him reload. If stacks are deep, you want to keep that pot as small as possible, and if your opponent doesn't want to co-operate, then it's best to just let it go. There will be other possibilities down the line, but only if you have a stack.

Folding TPTK or pocket rockets is not an easy thing to do, but Poker itself isn't easy. If it were, then everybody would win. It doesn't work that way.

This information I will file, it is always good to review interesting subject.

 

[Salavat Kozhakhmetov]

it's very hard sometimes to be able to do it a different way to play poker not learn,a good player especially one which can be reset at any time a good card!

 

[Gulas]

i have lost with kk and AA many times to people that should not even have been in the hand let alone stay for the river card. been beaten by river rats many times. sometimes better to go with JQ or so ,

I wonder how much of selective bias this statement is. I win most of my KK and AA. Sure, it sucks to lose with the strongests hands in play, but math and odds are in favour of these.

Though these are strong hands, they don't win everything. That's where reading your opponent comes in to play. If you read them well, it becomes easier to drop a top pair.

Cheers!

 

[SydTheCat]

if I have good kicker for example AJ,AND ON flope is Jack top,almoust I would never fold.....only set if someone have in my oppinion...

Don't always fall in love that either. Seen that beat many times with higher pair.

 

[GRIN281289]

I often have no luck with top pair, it's not hard to reset