Hacking Automatic Shuffler at the Casino.

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Did you know that some coaches have had a lifetime piece of their trainees profit.
I feel like the only guy with a brain sometimes
Or the dumbest guy in the world
One of two
I'm polarized lol
 
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A shuffler doesn't really need to be hi-tech. It could just as well be built with traditional analog circuits since we are talking about a fairly simple machine.
 
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Tero said:
A shuffler doesn't really need to be hi-tech. It could just as well be built with traditional analog circuits since we are talking about a fairly simple machine.

All true, but why out of topic this time?
 
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There are many illegal things happening in casinos that we don't even know about, and we are powerless about them.You have to accept it and play smart.
 
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Casinos dont need to cheat, they already have the edge.
 
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najisami said:
All true, but why out of topic this time?
Do we even know for sure that casinos use devices that can be hackable? And even if they did there's very little use for cables. Information could be transmitted wirelessly just as easily. But "dumb" old techniques are certainly safer.
 
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Tero said:
Do we even know for sure that casinos use devices that can be hackable? And even if they did there's very little use for cables. Information could be transmitted wirelessly just as easily. But "dumb" old techniques are certainly safer.
Now that's a good point. Presently, with all the electronic available devices, who needs wires, right?
Still, that little thing the guy plugged into the shuffler's USB drive can easily be used in a casino. And it's kind of "semi-wireless" .
 
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najisami said:
That's it. Everyone would have the right to bring their "Genie" along.
Can I bring this guy to be my dealer?
If yes then
I Agree with everyone that says a hand shuffle dealer is safest way to go.
If I can't bring him then
I admit dealers all become card engineers by defualt of their profession and I don't trust shyt



sick catch
Holy bajesus
 
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Tero said:
Do we even know for sure that casinos use devices that can be hackable? And even if they did there's very little use for cables. Information could be transmitted wirelessly just as easily. But "dumb" old techniques are certainly safer.
It has both capabilities but the wifi one needs a wifi chip to be planted prior or obviously it don't work.But the cpu operating system and software are all wifi capable.
For cables I bet only the blackjack baccarat and vs dealer games are hardwired.
The poker ones they probably let run their startup and continous program forever.
Allowing people like us
Too smart and too dumb for their own good
To play with it
And it's 2 USB ports under the table exposed.

And for you first question ,yes we do.

I really feel like I'm shortening my life writing about this
 
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I would prefer a human shuffler. I wouldn't bitch if there was an automatic shuffler, but there would be doubts. Best to be able to see all the cards, I'm sure if there was a human doing it, they may be able to cheat too, just might get caught if you are smart enough.
 
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belizebum said:
I would prefer a human shuffler. I wouldn't bitch if there was an automatic shuffler, but there would be doubts. Best to be able to see all the cards, I'm sure if there was a human doing it, they may be able to cheat too, just might get caught if you are smart enough.
I talked about this wild idea a couple years ago , about how to integrate crypto mining into the verification and dealing of the cards.
Now they have blockchain verification on randomation and privacy of cards. With a viewable history script to verify that no one has seen any of those cards.If it was then it too , then would be in history as seen prior. To try to ensure legitimacy.
I was on a test net one but they were giving away small amounts of money and anyone could join , and there was still problems with bots rings.
 
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It's amazing the lengths people will go to steal.
 
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Until we kind of catch...? )
 
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sibkaz said:
Until we kind of catch...? )
Catch the cheater or a nice streak? :ROFLMAO:.
 
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It's amazing the lengths people will go to steal.
Yeah, a lot of people only become creative when it comes to taking shortcuts.
 
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Really??? this is a thing <3 Wow, I have too much honour to ever cheat, or maybe a drive to win <3 I would hate to win because of cheating, it would never sit right with me
 
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billibooo said:
Really??? this is a thing <3 Wow, I have too much honour to ever cheat, or maybe a drive to win <3 I would hate to win because of cheating, it would never sit right with me

Unfortunately, not everyone thinks that way or has enough honor billie.
 
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I think that no matters what people will always find a way to cheat.
 
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I think that no matters what people will always find a way to cheat.
True, but the casinos will always find ways to counter-attack and make it more difficult and so on.................
 
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I don't remember ever playing at a table with an automatic shuffler. I think I would have noticed it. To be honest, I don't really trust such automatic machines. I would prefer the dealer to shuffle the cards.
 
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I saw that video on YouTube as well. If I were a casino manager, I’d probably add a quick manual shuffle by the dealer after using the automatic shuffler—just to rule out any possibility of misuse.
While searching for that clip, I also came across another YouTube video featuring a card‑trick expert who could shuffle the cards in all sorts of impressive ways asfter each other but yet still keep the aces on top at the end.
 
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R.Melnyk77 said:
I don't remember ever playing at a table with an automatic shuffler. I think I would have noticed it. To be honest, I don't really trust such automatic machines. I would prefer the dealer to shuffle the cards.
Automatic shufflers have been around for a long time now in casinos. The dealer uses 2 decks. The machine shuffles one while a hand is in play, when it's over, they take out the shuffled deck and put in the other. It saves some time.
 
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While searching for that clip, I also came across another YouTube video featuring a card‑trick expert who could shuffle the cards in all sorts of impressive ways asfter each other but yet still keep the aces on top at the end.

Such dealer is called a "Mechanic", but usually you don't find those in casinos.
 
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