AK or QQ ? Which one do you prefer ?

[kidkvno1]

Tough choice but as coolnout says below, Made Hand I too choose the ladies (Biatches)




Please enlighten us all what are the obvious reasons.

I am with Zorba....
QQ has won me more then AK. :joyman:

 

[ohoratiu]

I'll take the queens

 

[Infamous1020]

Please enlighten us all what are the obvious reasons.

uhhh card removal of hands that beat it, and it has power to force out hands its flipping with

assuming you dont suck.


basically you can do things with AK that you cant do with QQ. its just a more powerful hand

 

[Maid Marian]

As I'm learning rather quickly, the AK can be trouble. So I would definitely choose QQ anyday!

 

[Monoxide]

I find it comical that this thread is still being discussed. In it's raw math, QQ will be an approximate 56-43 favorite to win the hand heads up preflop all in. However, the true strength of this hand lies in one's ability to utilize bet sizing, position, and reads to induce folds or calls. Play the man, not the cards. Breaking out from a beginner player to intermediate is understanding that poker is relative, not absolute.

56+43=99%

 

[Lemlywinks]

Im fairly sure this is the obv answer: QQ

 

[str8]

Doyle Brunson says AK is a better hand than AA and KK. If AK is better than AA and KK than definitely is better than QQ.

The reasons are (according to Doyle Brunson):
1. You'll win more money when you make a hand with it.
2. You'll lose less money when you miss a hand with it.

 

[Monoxide]

[ ] doyle brunson is correct

 

[Worak]

I'll play QQ 24/7 vs AKo/s - even if opponent flips his cards.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

164,381,184 games 0.172 secs 955,704,558 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.056% 55.84% 00.21% 91796496 349212.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 43.944% 43.73% 00.21% 71886264 349212.00 { AKs, AKo }

 

[GeoffLacey]

Im fairly sure this is the obv answer: QQ

Yeah I thought this but I'm not entirely sure what OP is getting at. Are we saying that if we know what hands people have, would we rather have QQ or AK, cos then yeah it has to be QQ. Or are we saying, if you have no idea what the other person holds, which do we prefer?

 

[ChrisJJJJ]

QQ all the way.

 

[jdeliverer]

AK is way way way way better than QQ in tournaments. People always push with any ace. Any person thats plays tournaments long enough knows the value of AK, and how you will have most hands dominate. AA, KK, AK are top 3 hands in tournament poker. Ace-rag often beats the pocket queens in my experience.

However in a cash game AA, KK, QQ is my ranking. People dont push with A rag in cash games .

equity win tie pots won pots tie
Hand 0: 69.082% 68.86% 00.22% 1301749848 4174314.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 30.918% 30.70% 00.22% 580285140 4174314.00 { A2s+, A2o+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 71.522% 66.37% 05.15% 2563736412 199132524.00 { AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 28.478% 23.32% 05.15% 900956364 199132524.00 { A2s+, A2o+ }

So you see, QQ is only 2% less equity against a range of A-rag. Now obviously if people are pushing any ace they are probably pushing more than that, so lets add a few more hands to the range.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.801% 66.35% 00.45% 1424752200 9626892.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 33.199% 32.75% 00.45% 703223232 9626892.00 { TT+, A2s+, A2o+ }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.619% 62.17% 04.45% 2810486340 201023748.00 { AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 33.381% 28.93% 04.45% 1307948724 201023748.00 { TT+, A2s+, A2o+ }

Already QQ is ahead just adding TT+. If you add more cards such as K10+ and QJ (often realistic), QQ will pull farther and farther ahead. So even in tournaments, QQ is a far superior hand. Not to mention, sometimes when people are pushing with things like J-T, QQ is 85-15 to win while AK is 65-35 to win.

 

[dj11]

gimme 6 of one, then half dozen of the other.......

 

[nimer9]

if you are in a tournament where people push with 10's and lower... pretty donkfest. pocket 2's-10's are almost always coinflip and they are rare to go up against. Pocket pairs are rarer, someone will always likely have ace rag/high card. AA, KK, AK are top 3 hands in holdem.

 

[str8]

First I will talk about all-in situations. Is AK or QQ better to go AI preflop?
Depends a bit on your opponents range... Against someone very tight AK, especially suited is marginally better (because AK has more equity against AA, KK-range than QQ). Almost always QQ though. There's not a huge difference though, unless your opponent's range is close to ATC, then QQ is a lot better. In any practical situation the odds are always so good that it doesn't matter which one you have. There are no situations where you could make a decision to call an all in based on whether you have QQ or AK. The EV difference is so small that it doesn't affect your long term winrate.

One could argue that because you have one A and one K the chances of your opponent holding AA or KK are reduced, which might give you slighly more FE because your opponent's 3/4-bet is a bluff a bit more often.
However, I believe the slighly increased FE is negated by the fact that sometimes people call with 88 just because they think you have AK - and when you have QQ instead you crush them instead of flipping. So they might fold a bit more often when you have AK - but when they call light you have more equity with QQ.

Post-flop play: An overpair is a more disguised hand than TPTK. So I prefer QQ. Also AK can't make a set, which is a very strong hand. QQ can.

 

[Infamous1020]

First I will talk about all-in situations. Is AK or QQ better to go AI preflop?
Depends a bit on your opponents range... Against someone very tight AK, especially suited is marginally better (because AK has more equity against AA, KK-range than QQ). Almost always QQ though. There's not a huge difference though, unless your opponent's range is close to ATC, then QQ is a lot better. In any practical situation the odds are always so good that it doesn't matter which one you have. There are no situations where you could make a decision to call an all in based on whether you have QQ or AK. The EV difference is so small that it doesn't affect your long term winrate.

One could argue that because you have one A and one K the chances of your opponent holding AA or KK are reduced, which might give you slighly more FE because your opponent's 3/4-bet is a bluff a bit more often.
However, I believe the slighly increased FE is negated by the fact that sometimes people call with 88 just because they think you have AK - and when you have QQ instead you crush them instead of flipping. So they might fold a bit more often when you have AK - but when they call light you have more equity with QQ.

Post-flop play: An overpair is a more disguised hand than TPTK. So I prefer QQ. Also AK can't make a set, which is a very strong hand. QQ can.

No but AK can make 3 of a kind.

 

[str8]

Not only that AK can make 3 of a kind, but AK can make a str8 or a flush if it' suited. But str8s, flushes, 3 of a kind are long shots. You have better odds to make a set with 22 than to make 3 of a kind with AK.

 

[Lemlywinks]

[ ] doyle brunson is correct

lol'd

 

[pantin007]

Doyle Brunson says AK is a better hand than AA and KK. If AK is better than AA and KK than definitely is better than QQ.

The reasons are (according to Doyle Brunson):
1. You'll win more money when you make a hand with it.
2. You'll lose less money when you miss a hand with it.

i just hope ur misquoting him

 

[jdeliverer]

i just hope ur misquoting him

Or Brunson was kidding. AKs > AA obviously because of the higher potential to make a royal flush. and thats what the game is all about.

 

[Infamous1020]

obv, i only want royal flushes

 

[AtiFCOD]

QQ of course tho these cards not as strong as they seem
moreover QQ has a little more chance of winning, they can be good till a K or A shows up on the table...

as far as I'm concerned, I like raising preflop with QQ but I don't do that with AK

 

[Ecomdan]

Bah... give me pocket deuces any day. Easiest hand to play in poker.

 

[dd_decker]

Geez, that's a tough one.... don't think I ever got either A,K or Q,Q...

 

[johnnyutah699]

QQ hands down....the A K must hit which is no guarantee...like someone else said before, A K isnt even favored against pocket 2's, so I would much rather have pocket Queens.