Poker HUD Strategy: What to Do, What to Avoid, and How to Gain an Edge

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  • #26
I guess poker is more of a game of analysis than anything, no wonder the pro chess players seem to be good at it.
Remembering lines and figure out how to use them to your advantage against the players at your table who may be good, but aren't as studied.
Understanding players though process based on their playing style.
I guess polk is right, study for the first 6 months, and only then start playing.
 
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HUDs are a interesting tool to use. Yes i have one and love what it gets me. The problem is it is also very easy to missus and hurt your games.

The good part about a HUD is you can track everything you do, You see in real time what your stats are and its nice to see what your image is at any time. PY4 is my HUD when i play somewhere and can use it. The best part of this is after your done playing. Every hand and information of your game is there for you to use and analyze you game and others to see if you made mistake and more.

The bad part about HUDS. There are 2 separate issues here.

issue 1. They could hurt your live play. HUDS are great when multi tabling but if you plan to play live or if possible be more of a player they do hurt you live game skills. You need to read players. I am not talking about tells but what you read on players as they play. When you see what they do you can see mush more than the hands would tell you on a HUD and even have information faster. You may see a player with 15 hands with a VIP of 5.0 and belive he is a nit and you HUT will agree. But it could be he just had trash cards. Now you see a UNG open raise. and he shows A3o after the hand. What does this tell. you. I HUD will still say NIT. but the hand he raised UNG shows he is not. Lets say you start a new game and a player you have seen before come up very tight, You played him twice. Once he raise 100% of hands and was go fast. Next time he was blinded out over 75 hand. If you watch player online over the HUD it will make you a better player and you will see issues faster.

Issue 2 we did hit in 1 too but the stats can lie to you. Yes they may cbet 100% of hands but if it is always a min bet they are not being over aggressive just a bit weird. Some stats are really usefull like 3bets. Problem is you may need. 1000 hands to start to get accurate information. All they need is one hot run to skew the stats. Even 1000 hands are not enough to honestly know a player. While it will be usefully for VIP RFI and calling at 1000 hands some stats may take 10000 hands to be usefull. Now for a big issue people dont think about. Players change. A very laggy player may start to learn the game and start playing tight poker. You still have him as a lag and the stats will take a few thousand hand to show the change. But you end up loosing so them now. If your watching them play you will see the change and can adjust you play and notws in realy time.

LAst but not least, Depending where you play and games, how ofton do you play the same players? to make HUD stats usefull you really need alot of hand against a player. THis about how ofton you play them and how long you play them. You see the issue.

I o like HUDS but they should not be used as a crutch.
 
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I mostly use my HUD to catch basic patterns like who folds too much to 3-bets or who just can’t fold after the flop. When you have enough hands on someone it's a good tool to track this kind of information. You can also adjust your bluffing and value bets way better when you know how someone actually plays instead of just guessing.
 
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fundiver199 said:
My focus is on stats, that converge relatively quickly, since there are always new players at the table, and I am not trying to outplay the best regs. I have marked with bold the 3 numbers, that are not stats, but are actually more important than any stats. We always want to check, how large the sample is, so we dont start to 3-bet like a maniac, just because someone have folded to 3-bets 100% of the time, but its 2 out of 2. Knowing how deep we are, is crucial to all hand planning. And finally we want to make sure, we are looking at the right players stats.
I just set up my hud to only show stats when they converge, just put in min hand # for each stat.
 
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Balou1982 said:
Also very difficult and not helpfull is when you have more than one villain and you have not much time to make a decision in seconds, i feel better when i concentrate on my game and me than opponents stats for example.
I think, the trick is to learn to only look at HUD-data, when they might actually change your decisions. If I look at all the decisions, I make at a poker table, its a very small minority of them, where HUD-data made me do something different. If for instance I open A3o from CO and face a big 3-bet from BTN, I will just fold without spending as much as a second to look at the opponents HUD-stats.

But in other situations the data are helpfull. Lets say its a 7-handed table, and UTG makes an unusually large raise to 3,4BB out of his 23BB stack. I am sitting on BTN and look down on AQs. I cover UTG, and the players in the blinds have 20-25BB stacks. My first instinct here would be to jam over his raise, but the HUD show stats of VPIP/PFR of 14/4 over 189 hands.

This stops me in my tracks, and I opt to just call and see a flop in position rather than pile in all the chips and almost always get snap called by either AK or a big pair. Flop come 3 low cards, and he make a substantial C-bet. At this point I can confidently put him on an overpair, so I dont try to do anything fancy like float or raise but let him win the pot and saves the rest of my stack.
 
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TeUnit said:
I just set up my hud to only show stats when they converge, just put in min hand # for each stat.
Which tracker are you using? As far as I can figure out, PT4 only allow to set a general filter, which I have set to 10 hands after experimenting with it. Meaning my HUD shows no data at all, until I have at least 10 hands, but after that it will show everything. Its always a tradeoff between not wasting time and brainpower looking at meaningless data, while also not missing out on data, that might be usefull.

On one hand it does not say much, if someone has stats like VPIP/PFR of 10/10 after 10 hands. But it does say something, if they have stats like 90/10 after 10 hands, because there is basically zero chance, that a solid player would end up with such stats. Likely we have also seen them limp a lot and perhaps show down some ridiculous hands, so we can already give them the fish tag and focus on them for the rest of the session.
 
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  • #32
I am using HEM3, I used a color code workaround on PT in the past.
This from PT:

To ensure you are only relying on converged stats, you must manually select stats that require fewer hands to stabilize or create custom color-coded ranges based on your knowledge of convergence thresholds.



Top Converged (Stable) Stats for PT3 HUD
These stats converge relatively quickly, making them reliable even with smaller samples:
  • VPIP (Voluntary Put $ in Pot): Converges in ~500–1,000 hands.
  • PFR (Pre-Flop Raise): Converges in ~500–1,000 hands.
  • AF (Aggression Factor/Frequency): Converges in ~1,000–2,000 hands.
  • ATS (Attempt to Steal): Converges in ~1,000+ opportunities.


Stats to Avoid (Slow Convergence)
These stats are often inaccurate on a HUD until you have a massive sample (10k–50k+ hands):
  • 3Bet%: Requires a very large sample to be accurate.
  • Fold to 3Bet/4Bet: Highly unstable with small samples.
  • River Stats: Cbet Turn/River, Fold to River Bet.

How to Implement in PT3
  1. Use "Sample Size" Filters: In your HUD configuration, you can set "Player Ranges" to only show data for players with over
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    Xcap X
    hands.
  2. Color Coding: Use the Configure -> Statistics tab to color-code stats. You can set up rules to change the color of a statistic (e.g., to grey) if the sample size (opportunity count) is below a certain threshold.
  3. Use Preflop Metrics: Focus on HUD, VPIP, PFR, and Total Aggression as they are the most stable metrics.
 
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Thanks for the explanation. I will say however, that those numbers from PT4 are way to conservative for the way, I use my HUD. If I was to ignore even VPIP and PFR, until I had 500-1000 hands on someone, I would miss most of the fish, since fish tend to play for a while, lose for a while and then either stop or become better. So its kind of rare to have even 500 hands on a fish, especially if you play tournaments and/or play on a site with a large player pool.

So for me the better approach is to see the numbers and develop a feeling for, how accurate they tend to be after a certain number of hands. Like if someone has a 3-bet of 12% after 150 hands, I know, he could just have been running a bit hot, so I wont make adjustments based on it. But if someone has a 3-bet of 30% after 150 hands, combined with VPIP/PFR of 46/38, then this is almost certainly a very loose and aggressive player, and I will adjust based on it.
 
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With PT4 you would still see the VPIP even if you only had 1 hand it just would be a different color, until it converged(I agree that 500 is way to many hands for VPIP).

Also if you show the villans hand count, its pretty easy to see if you have only 36 hands you know their 4b stat is not that meaningful.
 
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As I'm playing on GG Poker I have their Embedded Smart HUD available. I'm using it very rarely to be honest as it has very basic functions. Also on GG Poker there is available PokerCraft option where you can see large history of your played games (tournaments, cash....) and therefore how you played certain hand against certain player. I use this option sometimes to analyze my play.
 
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TeUnit said:
Also if you show the villans hand count, its pretty easy to see if you have only 36 hands you know their 4b stat is not that meaningful.
Yes this is the approach, I use. I see the stats, but I kind of know, how accurate they are based on the sample size. Its also important to look at more than just one stat. A common example is a player with a higher 3-bet than PRF. Like VPIP 23 / PFR 18 / 3-bet 21. This makes no sense, and here we trust VPIP / PFR over 3-bet, because those numbers converge faster. So we basically treat this player as a standard LAG and ignore the absurdly high 3-bet number, which is probably based on him 3-betting 5 times or something.
 
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  • #37
I consider HUDs very useful, but I don't consider myself someone so concerned with details and statistics that it greatly influences my decisions. I started playing late, at 38, and I have difficulty learning new tricks.
I even made an effort and bought a PT4 license, but I had a lot of difficulty choosing the most useful statistics from among so many.
I prefer to believe that what is meant to be mine will come anyway, and when my big hit happens, I will play my worst poker and still win a lot of money.
 
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Excellent considerations to keep in mind when using a HUD.

As important as the data you obtain is knowing how to interpret it; obviously, we need to take the sample size into account!

Nowadays I don't usually use a HUD anymore because most rooms offer a basic version these days... Also because in some rooms I play in, they aren't allowed.

But I intend to supplement it in the future to use as a hand reviewer.

I used to filter the statistics of the best players I had in mind and see how they were distributing their plays.
 
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Very good article, once I tried to install a hud but I didn't understand anything:) for now I don't have much time to play on the computer, when I have enough time again I'll try to reinstall and see how my game improves.
 
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