Is it a Conspiracy?

[tabaskichhh]

I play different events in different rooms, but this feeling that I am playing against the same system does not happen to you?

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

What system do u mean? Some kind of super system that controlls everything?

 

[63burner]

The system is not the p problem. The nature of the game Is: Your play, your cards against the rest of the table. If it's a full table, nine other players, its nine vs. one, the odds are against you. If you play tables with fewer players, your chances improve. Instead of the system being against you, make your own system, play your way. Avoid the poker variants that go your way, or you are uncomfortable with. If you do well at hold 'em stick with it. Dabble in Omaha, other variant's if you wish, no dipping into the bankroll for dabbling, though.

 

[MK_]

Yes, the entire poker ecosystem was designed to target you personally...,

or maybe it's just the nature of poker that happens to us all,

... it's def one of those😎👍

 

[R.Melnyk77]

I play different events in different rooms, but this feeling that I am playing against the same system does not happen to you?

Perhaps you have this feeling because you play the same game, ‘poker’, on different sites
I don't play against the system or even against my opponents at the table, I play for myself and for my bankroll. My bankroll is growing, and although this process is rather slow, my results tell me that this system can be used to create an additional source of income.

 

[63burner]

And the system can be unforgiving, hours without a card, zero hope of getting a card that connects; it's rough. When that happens, no excuses, it's a run of really bad variance. Best thing is to get away from all games for enough time to refresh yourself and refresh your variance. With the end of the bad, it's your turn to have the variance in your favor. Better to quit while there is still some bankroll.

 

[R.Holynskyi]

I play different events in different rooms, but this feeling that I am playing against the same system does not happen to you?

Of course. We play poker on different sites, and although the sites are different, the poker is the same
Or maybe you mean how the random number generator works. As for me, it works differently on different sites.

 

[sibkaz]

Certainly not global! And different RNGs still make you adapt in different ways) This necessarily has systems)

 

[DarkSage]

Yes, it is.

 

[DarkSage]

Yes, the entire poker ecosystem was designed to target you personally...,

or maybe it's just the nature of poker that happens to us all,

... it's def one of those😎👍

That's so naive brother. Of course its not a personal thing, just a pot boost to scale the rakes right?

 

[Baco]

I think that feeling is pretty common, especially after a bad run. When variance hits hard, it can feel like you’re “playing against the system,” even across different rooms. But in the long run, the math is the same everywhere.

What usually helps me is reviewing hands and checking if tilt or confirmation bias is creeping in. Poker has a brutal short-term variance, and our brains are very good at finding patterns that aren’t really there.

 

[choprav]

Yeah sometimes people band together and take money off every1 else.

 

[Mario7]

I play different events in different rooms, but this feeling that I am playing against the same system does not happen to you?

Well, I just have googled "how many people win in poker" and it gave me the answer that 10-15%. The rest is loosing or break-even. So, unfortunately it is a system. If you play poker you do struggle against it and not many people beat it. It is just a nature of this game. I suppose the rake we have to pay is an important factor here, but it is the part of the system anyway.

 

[thwenth1983]

Good morning everyone. I started playing poker in 2018, and back then — in 2018, 2019, maybe even 2020 — I still had the impression that the card results were manipulated. It seemed that, most of the time, especially in KO tournaments, the cards favored the villain with the bigger stack. The guy would go in with something like 7-3 suited and hit a flush right on the flop. Anyway, over time I began to realize that there is no way online poker is manipulated, especially on the most well-known sites. That’s because the biggest profit of these sites does not come from poker, but from casino games. It is many times higher. They make much more money in the casino. Also, it makes no sense to manipulate a game in which they already secure their share, which is the rake. You register for a $5 tournament, for example, and 50 cents already go to the site as rake. For them, it doesn’t matter who wins or takes down the tournament; it makes no difference. There is also no possibility of the site itself having a bot playing, because poker sites are audited and subject to strict oversight. There are many regulations, since they handle the money of many people. It is essential that there is no manipulation in the game, nor any suspicion that the site, casino games, or poker are rigged. Therefore, you can rest assured: there is no system trying to manipulate the game or take your money, whether it’s $50 or $100. These sites generate revenue in the millions of dollars, so such small amounts make no difference at all. In one hour of casino play, they earn what poker brings them in an entire day.

 

[hardongear]

Did someone say system. Sure I've read and used this one...works good.



Cheers!!!

 

[dreamer13]

There is no system, it’s a problem in your head, it seems to you that there is deception all around.

 

[Mario7]

I believe the discussion about "rigged" online poker is as old as online poker itself.
Just a reminder - there is a "Rigged megathread", so we do not have to create a new thread about the same several times a week

https://www.casino.us/cardschat/bad-beats-and-vents-71/rigged-megathread-all-rigged-roads-lead-297777/

What puzzles me is the question "why?" - Mean why would poker sites do such silly thing, as cheating against some players to give profit to others?

Lets say Mario and Johnny play poker. Johnny feels / calculates he is cheated - he does not win as much as he should (he enters the pot with better cards but is sucked out. The situation repeats). Mario wins, making theorethical mistakes, playing with worse cards. The rigged algoryhtm just decides Johnny should not win by some reason, and deal this lucky card to Mario on the turn or river.

What is the profit for poker room? The rake is the same, no matter who wins.

And to acheieve this goal, the poker room has to implement some cheating alorythm, risking one day some programists will share it and so on... What for? The poker room could easily gain more profit by increadsing the rake by 0,5%. Legit, no risk. Most of players would never notice the difference.

 

[hardongear]

There is no system, it’s a problem in your head, it seems to you that there is deception all around.

Oh come one of course there's system(see pic in my post above). Somewhere Doyle is reading your comment and rolling in his grave. He's also shaking his head at me for using a pic of Super System 2 and not Doyle's original book Super System .

Cheers!!!

 

[puzzlefish]

Did someone say puzzles?

What puzzles me is the question "why?" - Mean why would poker sites do such silly thing, as cheating against some players to give profit to others?

To answer your question with a question: why is it necessarily the poker sites that are involved? Why is it not just a hardware or software issue that just happens to cause the game of poker to not be entirely random?

What is the profit for poker room? The rake is the same, no matter who wins.

Assuming it is the poker room behind it, why not make a little bit more with accounts that never withdraw money but cause money to be churned around the site more? Instead of being withdrawn, some money goes from a winning player to losing players who will use it to register in more games or play on more tables, leading to more fees and more rake.

And to acheieve this goal, the poker room has to implement some cheating alorythm, risking one day some programists will share it and so on... What for? The poker room could easily gain more profit by increadsing the rake by 0,5%. Legit, no risk. Most of players would never notice the difference.

The poker sites can easily claim ignorance because the system is baked into the algorithm in a way that cannot be easily detected by traditional testing. This can be in the form of on-off states, where an algorithm is dormant most of the time but switches on for a certain amount of hours before turning off again. It can also be permanently on, where overall the results appear to be random but on closer inspection certain players are selected to win at certain times (like a lottery system - but there's an order to it that's not random).

Occam's razor suggests the simplest answer - it's just all a hallucination, everything is normal, just keep clicking buttons.

 

[fletchdad]

Cheating can happen anywhere. There are checks and regulations at all legit and reliable sites.

Can it happen that the software is rigged? Of course. Has it happened at a big reputable site? Yes. Of course, this will make you wary.

Is it probable that a reputable site will take your money by rigging the game in 2026? You need to answer this question on your own, for yourself. As I mentioned, cheating CAN happen everywhere. There are failsafes installed in many cases, to prevent rigging and cheating, no matter what it is, credit card, voting booth, online poker etc.

If you do your research, and believe it is rigged, and you still play, dont come bitch here.

 

[machinm19]

Most poker sites are bound to feel similar since a lot of them use the same software, I don't think its a secret.

 

[gardin555]

I play different events in different rooms, but this feeling that I am playing against the same system does not happen to you?

We really dont know..., but sometimes happens some weird things playing poker online.
I was playing two tournaments in two different sites and there appeared the same cards in my hand, at both tourneys at the same time, sometimes twice in a row, that really surprised to me, and I was trying to believe that this was just a casualty, but these things happened more than just once...

 

[Claudiunm]

In my opinion, there is manipulation, yes—but not in the way we usually think.
It’s not manipulation meant to steal from players, but rather to balance the game. This manipulation doesn’t care who benefits from it, so we can consider the RNG to be random because it doesn’t favor anyone. It only balances the game.
But in what sense does it balance the game?
It balances the game in a way that makes it harder for good players and easier for bad players. A clear example is how often our AA gets cracked by 98s.
If this “forced balance” didn’t exist, strong players would crush weak players at an overwhelming speed. That creates two problems for the poker room:

1. Weak players are the ones who keep the system running with their deposits. If they come to the conclusion that they have no chance, they quit the game. Not all of them, but enough to make the system unviable.
2. If strong players destroy weak players too quickly, that results in very little rake being generated. I don’t think I need to explain why that’s bad for the poker room.

By balancing the game, everyone stays happy. Weak players have the illusion that they have a chance, strong players keep making money (even if at a slower pace), and the poker room keeps collecting rake.

 

[Rost]

I play different events in different rooms, but this feeling that I am playing against the same system does not happen to you?

Of course, it is the same system, just with different organizers and different software. But the system is the same everywhere. It is the system on which 95% of all online gambling sites operate.
This can be easily illustrated by the example of a wheel. It is used by different car manufacturers in different cars. The wheel itself is always the same, it is round, but the conditions and characteristics in which it is used may vary.

 

[successlaw]

Yes , for sure, every poker room has a RNG which deal cards