I believe GGPoker is the most unethical poker site ever created

[Macaroon]

I know I'm a bit thick, but I don't see what criticising the GG casino has to do with playing poker. I have played online poker for 15 years (not on GG, though) and never yet gone on to a casino game. How are the poker games being unethical? Can someone explain?

 

[Poker Orifice]

A moderator changed my original title for this thread into the ultra cringe title it has now. I don't know why. The original title specified "the most unethical non-scam poker site ever created" to address this objection. If a site doesn't let you withdraw money, it's just a scam, and I agree that makes it worse

Did you send them a message asking it to be returned to how you originally titled it? (changing the title seems ridiculous as it does change the meaning of your thread)

 

[mr.fers_one]

Everything is well noted. GG Poker is more about the casino than about poker. They always do everything in their favor... They take a percentage of the withdrawals, meaning you're already in the red on this site. And now they've disabled Luxon, thereby encouraging people to use dubious deposit and withdrawal methods. I support the author of the article, GG Poker are the biggest charlatans in the poker world. P.S. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have as much money as all the players on the platform. It seems to me that this is a second full tilt, and the owners are already having a nice rest on the money of players who made deposits. Again, this is just my guess.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Everything is well noted. GG Poker is more about the casino than about poker. They always do everything in their favor... They take a percentage of the withdrawals, meaning you're already in the red on this site. And now they've disabled Luxon, thereby encouraging people to use dubious deposit and withdrawal methods. I support the author of the article, GG Poker are the biggest charlatans in the poker world. P.S. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have as much money as all the players on the platform. It seems to me that this is a second full tilt, and the owners are already having a nice rest on the money of players who made deposits. Again, this is just my guess.

What?
This is perhaps YOUR experience... mine is completely different. I've never even looked at a casino game on GG (didn't even know they exist). And the poker on GG is MASSIVE!!! Including they are holding the wsop events. Did you see the final table yesterday or were you spinning some wheel that EVERYONE knows is a losing proposition. (I mean who honestly doesn't know this???). Top 6 all won at least $1 million dollars for a $5,000 entry. 1st place won $3.9 Million! Incredible!

 

[primrose]

I guess I'm gonna make one last post in this cringe title thread just so people who don't look at the other sub forums know why I stopped responding

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/suggestions-questions-announcements-6/suggestions-questions-announcements-posting-guidelines-82511/page-15#post-7201008

...oke that's it, thanks bye!

 

[TheKAAHK]

I guess I'm gonna make one last post in this cringe title thread just so people who don't look at the other sub forums know why I stopped responding

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/suggestions-questions-announcements-6/suggestions-questions-announcements-posting-guidelines-82511/page-15#post-7201008

...oke that's it, thanks bye!

This is such a weak thing to have a fit over.

It's a title change, and a relatively inconsequential one at that. Donna's reasoning was sound and it looks like it was changed again to remove the word you objected to after you brought it up.

It sounds like you're mad on principle alone and are having a hissyfit because you're not getting it changed back like you want and also because there's virtually nobody agreeing with your initial assertion, at least not in the way you thought it would be.

I'm not going to go over your OP point by point, but everything you claim as "unethical" is either a feature that people like (smooth software), things that can be done irl (rabbit hunting and slow peel), and things that are easy to understand or outright ignore if you have half a brain (AIoF being a losing game, spins as rake generators, PokerCraft notshowing rake). Hell, most people who play those know they're not gonna wing big but play them because they find them fun.

Offering a flashy, smooth, accessible and simple gaming/gambling platform isn't unethical or scummy at all. It's good business. Adults can make choices on where and what to play and it's not up to the service to have "morals" and scruples, its up to the customer.

 

[Fallenglory]

I know I'm a bit thick, but I don't see what criticising the GG casino has to do with playing poker. I have played online poker for 15 years (not on GG, though) and never yet gone on to a casino game. How are the poker games being unethical? Can someone explain?

OP explained it better, but a part of it are these formats on GG that 'trigger' gambling addiction with psychological tricks most people are unaware of.

Mystery Battle Royal, uncertain treasure chest anywhere from x1/4th buyin to x1000.

All in or fold: push/fold poker with a slim chance to win a jackpot.

Spin&Gold wheel that rolls at the start with the jackpot on the wheel.

Basicly everyone has the idea of winning a grand price in their head, but in reality you are very unlikely to win it.

 

[G0930]

Basicly everyone has the idea of winning a grand price in their head, but in reality you are very unlikely to win it.

Nobody expects that .
OP does sound like a whiny teenager who thinks she is always right and can't even argue herself but has to answer almost always with AI, which doesn't help her case either.

Everyone is aware of the probabilities....

 

[Snake2007]

I agree with you. At the moment, the best seems to me to be 888 poker.

 

[Fallenglory]

Nobody expects that .
OP does sound like a whiny teenager who thinks she is always right and can't even argue herself but has to answer almost always with AI, which doesn't help her case either.

Everyone is aware of the probabilities....

I believe it for you. But I've responded to a few people on CC alone who didn't knew the odds of the Spins. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[Martyn2]

The GGPoker poker room is good because it has a large online presence, many tournaments and many fans.

 

[Macaroon]

OP explained it better, but a part of it are these formats on GG that 'trigger' gambling addiction with psychological tricks most people are unaware of.

Mystery Battle Royal, uncertain treasure chest anywhere from x1/4th buyin to x1000.

All in or fold: push/fold poker with a slim chance to win a jackpot.

Spin&Gold wheel that rolls at the start with the jackpot on the wheel.

Basicly everyone has the idea of winning a grand price in their head, but in reality you are very unlikely to win it.

Thank you. My take is that GG are not the only company in the world (and not the only casino site) to try to trick people into losing or spending money. TV adverts do it all the time. I see that I'm not the only person to decline to play in an online casino (see Poker Orifice's post). It's easy - just don't click it! That is real gambling, as opposed to poker which requires a level of skill to make a profit. I don't gamble. Simple. And I now wonder whether a lot of posters saying they are poker players are really just trusting to luck.

 

[Poison91]

Great, let's take ads as a comparison. If you're not aware of this, governments have decided to regulate ads for content on standards like truthfulness and deception. By that standard used for advertisements, a lot of what GGPoker does would probably be illegal, so this seems to back my position, not yours.

E,g, I asked Claude about the analogue of GGPoker's wheel for spin&go's:

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I managed to find a way around the spins and went up to 2700-2800 elo points from 2000, I even won 13 spin and gos in a row, you shouldn't get attached to the all in, you have to know how to fold and use the timing well. I even made a mistake in withdrawing the 20 dollars since I later realized that I appear on the daily table of those who won the most in spins of 0.25, accumulating 1 dollar almost 2 : (

 

[julio gonzalez]

Hello I think GG is ready for high rollers especially the Chinese

 

[wilko32]

Yeah, exactly — GGPoker isn’t just a poker site with flashy graphics, it’s built like a casino product. The entire user experience borrows directly from the psychology behind slot machines and mobile gambling Apps.

 

[dibroff777]

Anyway, every poker site has its own random number generator. I've played on many sites and everywhere I have +- the same style of play, somewhere I consistently lose, somewhere my style of play makes a profit. I would like to play live, but there's no less deception there either 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[miklcct]

I have tried to registered an account on GGPoker, pokerstars and unibet. I have only succeeded in playing on GGPoker.

GGPoker: KYC passed immediately, set the responsible gaming limit to $10 deposit daily, deposited $10 with debit card without a problem, started playing immediately.

PokerStars: KYC passed in a day, set the responsible gaming limit to $10 deposit daily, tried to deposit but there was no way to switch the currency to USD. If I attempted to deposit GBP to the USD wallet, it had a huge markup in the exchange rate. Then I couldn't even deposit anything because all payment method had a minimum deposit amount of £8 or more (which is more than $10). The customer service didn't work at all, in App the chatbot didn't understand my query and in website the login form didn't recognise my username and password.

Unibet: Account got frozen immediately after creation and the customer support said that it was under review, and no response in a week already.

 

[KrazyKoo]

I have tried to registered an account on GGPoker, PokerStars and Unibet. I have only succeeded in playing on GGPoker.

PokerStars: KYC passed in a day, set the responsible gaming limit to $10 deposit daily, tried to deposit but there was no way to switch the currency to USD. If I attempted to deposit GBP to the USD wallet, it had a huge markup in the exchange rate. Then I couldn't even deposit anything because all payment method had a minimum deposit amount of £8 or more (which is more than $10). The customer service didn't work at all, in app the chatbot didn't understand my query and in website the login form didn't recognise my username and password.

Unibet: Account got frozen immediately after creation and the customer support said that it was under review, and no response in a week already.

Did you get Unibet and PokerStars sorted?

in PokerStars you can probably increase your deposit limit without customer assistance to $14 so you can deposit 10 GBP but takes 24 hours to 7 days

 

[AgressiveFacts]

There has to be something wrong with the RNG there, by wrong I mean fraud. This happens every single time I get baited into depositing on this pos site.

And this isn't variance because I can recreate the beats withhin an hour, what's new is that they started to give me the GG care chips. If the flipout wasn't a scam as well I'd grind out 500k in 2 hours at low stakes, while one tabling...**** this trash site

 

[KANNE 1972]

I have to say that if you spend so much time writing such a huge article just to make GGPoker appear as a rip-off site, I think you must have a problem with gambling yourself. I personally have already gambled away a lot of money and do not blame the poker site for it, as it is at my own discretion not to play anymore or even participate in any games at all.

 

[Mario7]

There has to be something wrong with the RNG there, by wrong I mean fraud. This happens every single time I get baited into depositing on this pos site.

And this isn't variance because I can recreate the beats withhin an hour, what's new is that they started to give me the GG care chips. If the flipout wasn't a scam as well I'd grind out 500k in 2 hours at low stakes, while one tabling...**** this trash site View attachment 397088

I do not get it - if you are convinced the site is rigged/RNG fraud, trash and so on, why do you still deposit money and play there?

 

[AgressiveFacts]

I do not get it - if you are convinced the site is rigged/RNG fraud, trash and so on, why do you still deposit money and play there?

That was the last time and yes that's irrational behavior, you probably weren't looking for an honest answer but I really do like your question and will keep it in mind the next time I get the urge to play online p9ker on a site with traffic it's just not there for me and I need to accept it, thanks for the reminder

I just reviewed todays session, my god what a shitshow this site is.

Have missed the BBJ by one card 4 times, lost every single one of those pots while being ahead when it went in,mal so loosing significantly more the bigger the pots get.

 

[G0930]

I just reviewed todays session, my god what a shitshow this site is

Maybe you just suck at poker 🤔
Everyone has their talents this isn't one of yours 🤷🏼‍♂️

Little self reflection wouldn't hurt. ..it's never yourself right ? It's the bad bad pokerroom 😆

But people like you keep the pokerbusiness afloat so thanks for that 👍🏼

 

[AgressiveFacts]

Maybe you just suck at poker 🤔
Everyone has their talents this isn't one of yours 🤷🏼‍♂️

Little self reflection wouldn't hurt. ..it's never yourself right ? It's the bad bad pokerroom 😆

But people like you keep the pokerbusiness afloat so thanks for that 👍🏼

I habe a massively positive EV because I suck at poker? Can you please elaborate how how you came to that conclusion, also: show me a graph freeroll fish, thank you

Like bruv you are in Bible studies groups in this forum how on this planet can you even think you should start trash talking me? I'd literally nail you to a cross like your imaginary lord in a forum battle.

This man believes in Jesus Christ and that gg poker isn't rigged, 🤣

 

[G0930]

I habe a massively positive EV because I suck at poker? Can you please elaborate how how you came to that conclusion, also: show me a graph freeroll fish, thank you

Complaining about downswings and blaming the pokerroom tells me all about your skills I need to know.

Downswings are part of the game. Your conclusion that its rigged only shows how clueless you are

Plus if you really have a "massive positive EV" there would be no need to complain so I call bullshit on that part 🤷🏼‍♂️🙂