Are PokerRoom algorithms influenced by money paid in?

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What do you think? Do the Pokerrooms' poker machine based on deal,that how much money you have paid in or not?

Sometimes I feel so that based on deal the poker machine to how much money cash-in.Sometimes I feel so that deals equally.
 
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I think the important question is are we going to look for conspiracy theories or are we going to look for proven things we can control.... which is our game and how we choose to play?😎👍
 
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I am not sure what you mean from "Poker machine" but if it is like a one armed bandit (Slot machine) then generally Arcade slot machines have a plastic tube inside that have a sensor, if the money pushed in is lower than the sensor then the win ratio is reduced until the coins stack up above the sensor.
If it is already higher then the win ratio increases, I know this from the fact my Wife was a manageress in a slot machine arcade, and I knew the engineers that came around when machines broke down and they came to repair them.
The sensor can be raised or lowered by the mechanics to alter the pay-out ratio and of course increase the takings. I used to be able to spot these tubes through the reel window and if the tube was empty, I would stay well away from the machine.
One last tip, if you play them let the winnings add up and only hit the collect button when you are finished, as the money drops from these tubes lowering the coins below the sensor.
 
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I feel that online poker is trending every day. Like: today if I have two cards of the same suit I can enter the flop that will hit. Or 5 and J which will hit (for example) that day.
 
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I think if online poker rooms were manipulating and fraudulently fixing the games for a certain outcome, they would never get licensed by the various gaming commissions and would quickly lose all their patrons.
 
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MK_ said:
I think the important question is are we going to look for conspiracy theories or are we going to look for proven things we can control.... which is our game and how we choose to play?😎👍
I think exactly the same, for you to say that something happens anywhere you have to have proof or simply that will be a way to camouflage your mistakes or your bad plays!(y):unsure:
 
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Back in 2010 when the hype was still big, I once had an interesting experience at PartyPoker. Of course, this can't be proven, since I didn't take any screenshots. But what I can say is that I played a lot of online blackjack back then, which meant that as a young man I lost everything again and again. At some point, the deposits increased and Party Poker has provided me at that time the money immediately before the transfer was also carried out. So I also gambled away these entries, first €50, then €100 and at some point I even got to withdraw €500 once which I also gambled away. Interestingly, my bank rejected all these entries, so Party Poker tried weekly to withdraw these amounts.


Each time a debit did not work, a fee of 20€ was added. Since I was doing a lot of small transactions, you can imagine that there was a weekly fee of about 300-400€ just for the transactions.
In the end I called Party Poker and told them that I was a young man with little money and could not balance the money. I was now somewhere around 2500€ in the red.
What happened after that call, some may call lucky, others "scam".
That night I deposited another 25€ and got one BlackJack after another. Not in a row but every second-third time a blackjack.
So within 30 minutes I turned €25 into about €2500. I immediately paid out the 2000€ and continued playing with the 500€. However, I lost this immediately again.

Of course, nothing was paid out to me, much more the money was balanced with the minus on my account. The difference was that I could deposit and play normally again.

I can hardly believe that I was so lucky. It is of course possible but there are just too many consecutive situations that resemble a lottery hit.

So yes, I think operators can and do manipulate when they think it's necessary. It's just like in politics. Power is abused there, too, but you don't always notice it.
 
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Pityesz1974 said:
What do you think? Do the Pokerrooms' poker machine based on deal,that how much money you have paid in or not?

Sometimes I feel so that based on deal the poker machine to how much money cash-in.Sometimes I feel so that deals equally.
Which poker room? Which money - the money you deposit into the room? Or the money you bet into a pot in a given hand? And overall probably not.
 
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Lassy said:
Legit question, always remember your online playing on a programmed poker site
Oh... is that the way it works?
 
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I don't think algorithm is based on how much money was paid in. This is a gambler's fallacy.
 
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Lassy said:
About %99 of the time when you have proof your either ignored, brushed under the rug or banned. They don't like it when you actually show you have a brain when something doesn't seem right
Weird my friends who became online poker pros are much better than anyone else who has this kind of argument, is it a coincidence?:unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
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I think there is an algorithm for all stakes but they change it from time to time
 
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I think online poker has a complicated cash flow system, but your guess is somewhere in between.
 
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If you have played casino slots , you know that's a fact , how much you have wagered , how much money is your total existed balance (money that you could potentially risk/lose while playing this slot game )

why wouldn't they do this also in poker games ??
 
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No, but I think they are by the time you are sitting on one table, especially in cash games, in the end you always lose to some garbage hands
 
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Its still not rigged.

It makes no sense for the poker site to rig the cards.

If it was rigged it would be easy to tell with a HUD.
 
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Dead Beat said:
If your not depositing ,your not building
Endless examples out there which disprove your claim.
A famous example is Chris Ferguson who built his bankroll of 10000$ from scratch which eventually gave him the opportunity to go pro

Even some examples of players here on CC who managed to build a bankroll from freerolls..
Redboy even has a Silver Pass now without depositing.
 
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G0930 said:
Endless examples out there which disprove your claim.
A famous example is Chris Ferguson who built his bankroll of 10000$ from scratch which eventually gave him the opportunity to go pro

Even some examples of players here on CC who managed to build a bankroll from freerolls..
Redboy even has a Silver Pass now without depositing.
Chris Ferguson was a pro MANY, MANY years prior to the $10k challenge. Chris actually helped to build the site and was one of the founding owners.
The $10k challenge was to show recreational players that it could be done.

And yes, MANY, MANY, MANY members on CC over the years have built bankrolls starting from zero.
 
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Chris Ferguson was a pro MANY, MANY years prior to the $10k challenge. Chris actually helped to build the site and was one of the founding owners.
The $10k challenge was to show recreational players that it could be done.

And yes, MANY, MANY, MANY members on CC over the years have built bankrolls starting from zero.
Oh right , well I was half right. Was a long time ago 😆
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by paid in.
If you mean deposit, I don't think so.
If you mean generated rake, Yes I think they do everything they can to earn more money.
 
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I don't think so, I used to deposit only on PS, then I found out about freerolls, now I have a bankroll on 5 poker sites, and I've already had a withdrawal, if your theory is correct, I think I won't be able to collect my bankroll
 
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G0930 said:
Oh right , well I was half right. Was a long time ago 😆
It was a hundred years ago and the goal was to promote full tilt. They held almost zero freerolls. At that time, traffic was alive and well on almost all limits and poker was very soft in general. So one of the more difficult tasks in that challenge was to get to the first few dollars, so he could start printing.

Completely different situation than nowadays where u have tons of freerolls available (depending on the site) and games get difficult already just after micros (depending on the site).

if anyone ever comes up with this again in 2023 or later, he will have 10 vip chips deducted from his account by @Andyreas

Enough is enough 😉🌞😆
 
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Pityesz1974 said:
What do you think? Do the Pokerrooms' poker machine based on deal,that how much money you have paid in or not?
Oh yes. The "withdrawal curse" is real. Withdraw even just a small amount like $20, and you will be doomed to recieve an endless amount of bad beats and coolers over the next several month. Thats why the biggest grinders in online poker never withdraw. Like for instance this guy, who has won $439k over almost a decade playing mostly heads-up SnGs. I assure you, he has not hit the withdrawal button once......


On the countrary if you want to run good, all you need to do, is to deposit at least $500 every month. And please report here, what games you are going to play, so we can come and donate to you :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: (end of sarcasm).
 
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