Pokerstars bots

[David macdonald]

It’s actually hard for people to use bots, because the Poker Stars software is hacking software, that the house can use to scan your drives for bots, watch your monitor, and log your keyboard. Most of your bad beats may have been hands that you played out of position and that’s why it turned into a trap. Americas Cardroom for example will give me a hand to trap me with close to 100% anytime I check a hand in the big blind, to take me out of the game. Moreover, most experienced players are using management software such as PokerTacker4, which will record your stats and show what hand you mucked. The house simply has their favorite players that they assign winning accounts to and guys that they assign losing accounts to.

Interesting!

 

[David macdonald]

I read in the past (years ago) about some russian bots or illegal programms running in high stakes PLO and winning big money , the PS security caught them and shared their loot . Nothing else .

PS , 888poker , Partypoker and many great rooms have very strict security , manytimes annoyingly strict security (but it's for our safe/good ), when they contact/bother you while trying to investigate for anything they think it might be abnormal (programm or log in location , etc). Their rooms are safe of bots , I firmly believe it .

For the smallest rooms I have heard stories and read one thread here on CC . But even there if there are bots in some small poker rooms , at your table , if you play your A-game , you'll win them and laugh big time with their losses with their fearless bets-bluffs-all ins , as long as you play very good poker , be tricky with them and luck will be on your side

One story for fun Once I beat one very good player HU on a micro tournament on a small poker room , he was playing/betting perfectly on the FT , like a bot [emoji14] (well that's another story , we call sb a bot when he plays awesome poker in comparison to everyone's on the table , hatefull biased comment ) . Finally we were HU , I raised AJs , he reraised the right amount ( I was anxious with his betting behavour untill then , plus card dead and bluffs not successful , and felt pressure ) , went all in like I shouldn't, cracked his AA and won the tournament :eviltonguUnlucky bot If he actually wasn't the bot , he might had thought I was the stupid lucky bot for real -BBB- , Bad Beat Bot

Back to the thread topic Bet-raise-play right , Be tricky , artful , sly , fearless in good spots against whoever you think is bot and with good luck you will be the winner :star::icon_fara:star:

I'm sorry I disagree that you can beat a bot by being on your A game, you can't stop the bad beats I'm afraid, how do these donks know to go all in with crap risking their tournament and hit runner runner on turn and river to put you out??

 

[rachelle2291]

The proliferation of bots (people using them to make decisions and sites employing bot players to increase traffic) ruined online backgammon and it could do the same with poker. I can remember playing on one backgammon site that offered incredible welcome bonuses. I thought it kind of strange though that not one of the 'players' would say hi back to me. And then I started noticing that they were making some really weird checker plays that humans would never make and that their cube play was flawless. I determined that over 95 percent of the players on the site at any given time were bots.

 

[henriquemaduro]

I will be devastated if I ever found out my bad beats were due to bot assistance.

Do yout think the bots are from Stars, they know ours hands and they can manipulate the board cards?

 

[Soulguard]

there are definitly bots on pokerstars that are farming... that huge platform has to have them and with the tracker stats they are tough to beat ofc.. thats why I dont play cash tables ..maybe some grinding tournaments but its the same and they cant be that effective in tournaments ... but moustly in cash games any higher limit u play just there at any table there will be atleast one bot on your table

 

[David macdonald]

How can we prove this, I want my money back if I find out I have been robbed by bots

 

[henriquemaduro]

How can we prove this, I want my money back if I find out I have been robbed by bots

If someone prove the bots, this should go to justice.

 

[David macdonald]

If someone prove the bots, this should go to justice.

I have sent stars an email will be interesting to see what they say, won't be surprised if they ban me

 

[Joe]

Some theories on this thread are just laughable...

Haven't watched the OP video yet, going to now...

 

[xbursonicx]

I have no doubt that bots are used on PokerStars (or other poker room) because any popular online game faces that problem sooner or later. And online poker is much more lucrative for bot writers/users because it's real money. So really it's all about how effectively the bots can be detected. It seems PokerStars does more or less a good job with regard to that as, for example, we haven't heard the kind of accusations made against ACR by known poker players.

 

[Joe]

Having watched the full podcast on OP I can confirm that I dislike hearing Polk talk. Sorry Doug.

 

[David macdonald]

Are there bots in freerolls as well??

Probably it's free cash...

 

[David macdonald]

Do yout think the bots are from Stars, they know ours hands and they can manipulate the board cards?

No I didn't believe it until jungleman confirms it, it's people bypassing the stars software, watch the video man.

 

[David macdonald]

Having watched the full podcast on OP I can confirm that I dislike hearing Polk talk. Sorry Doug.

It's opens your mind, think about it jungleman doesn't care he isn't lying for sure, he doesn't depend on stars because he doesn't use the site and makes a fortune playing in asia. On the other hand doug polk joined stars and didn't want to comment but he does admit that " any player that goes on stars to make money is dumb " they both state how difficult it is to win. All of this makes sense to me because I see it daily as I have played on stars for years. Believe me I was in denial, I wrote to stars on several occasions and they strongly deny any wrongdoing and do not like anyone trying to tarnish their reputation, they even blocked my account and threatened to ban me. The point is I rely on stars and they have the biggest games with the best roi, however I now know that the ridiculous bad beats I receive daily and Im talking unbelievable bad beats with people risking their tournament life with nothing and getting lucky time and time again on a daily basis must be bots. I don't believe stars would risk a multi million pound company by putting in their own bots that's just ridiculous. I know that people do hack into websites regularly and do it undetected, if you remember back a few weeks ago all the poker sites were hacked by scammers, the games were frozen and all money was refunded. The scammers hit party poker first demanding a randsom then stars was hit. So it does happen and in fact I'm going to post some boom hands on here over my play the next few days because it seems unavoidable.

 

[wlad20082009]

It's opens your mind, think about it jungleman doesn't care he isn't lying for sure, he doesn't depend on stars because he doesn't use the site and makes a fortune playing in asia. On the other hand doug polk joined stars and didn't want to comment but he does admit that " any player that goes on stars to make money is dumb " they both state how difficult it is to win. All of this makes sense to me because I see it daily as I have played on stars for years. Believe me I was in denial, I wrote to stars on several occasions and they strongly deny any wrongdoing and do not like anyone trying to tarnish their reputation, they even blocked my account and threatened to ban me. The point is I rely on stars and they have the biggest games with the best roi, however I now know that the ridiculous bad beats I receive daily and Im talking unbelievable bad beats with people risking their tournament life with nothing and getting lucky time and time again on a daily basis must be bots. I don't believe stars would risk a multi million pound company by putting in their own bots that's just ridiculous. I know that people do hack into websites regularly and do it undetected, if you remember back a few weeks ago all the poker sites were hacked by scammers, the games were frozen and all money was refunded. The scammers hit party poker first demanding a randsom then stars was hit. So it does happen and in fact I'm going to post some boom hands on here over my play the next few days because it seems unavoidable.

You are right, I join your opinion ! The more I play, as well as reading about bots, the more convinced I am !

 

[David macdonald]

You are right, I join your opinion ! The more I play, as well as reading about bots, the more convinced I am !

The sad thing is I will keep playing on stars and nothing will be done about this lol

 

[ChipWinged]

I want to put my 2 cents. I am sure about bots' existing on PS but don't know, is it PS' bots or players'. But!
I am sure about indicator when you play with bots - it's lagging in game.
At first, sound is asynchronous with actions (chip sound is earlier than action)
At second, on all-in there is freeze then momentually turn and river.
And surely, instant bets. Ok maybe it's modified client with special checkboxes like "check/fold", "call any" but where can I get this functions?
For me, bots are spoiling game. But now we can determine a bot postfactun only with researching of its statistics. I hope it will be solved.

 

[David macdonald]

I want to put my 2 cents. I am sure about bots' existing on PS but don't know, is it PS' bots or players'. But!
I am sure about indicator when you play with bots - it's lagging in game.
At first, sound is asynchronous with actions (chip sound is earlier than action)
At second, on all-in there is freeze then momentually turn and river.
And surely, instant bets. Ok maybe it's modified client with special checkboxes like "check/fold", "call any" but where can I get this functions?
For me, bots are spoiling game. But now we can determine a bot postfactun only with researching of its statistics. I hope it will be solved.

I will need to look out for this lag, very good point actually!

 

[M13A13]

The talk about the possible bot present in the online poker rooms is old. In almost every room this schism is a daily occurrence for all players online.

 

[PH03N1Xir]

Doug polk and jungleman podcast discuss bots on stars, what do you guys think?
If it's true I'm not going to be happy having played on stars for 13 years, I have had alot of unbelievable bad beats and whenever I questioned stars integrity I was told I would be banned from the site. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yC710q2ohA

uke:

 

[Bambini7777]

at the expense of bots do not know, but there are a lot of dishonest players who use the helpers and play a huge plus

 

[Bambini7777]

even the stars are aware of this problem, but they solve them very slowly

 

[lovido]

I could literally lose the will to live, if it's actually true, because i've had lots of bad beats ever since i started playing, but i only considered it "unluck "

 

[copyyy125]

Of course there are bots on every single site i guess just on stars/888poker more then on partypoker lets say


But my problem with star is how are they making people go All-In for rakes its not rng at all.


When one guy gets KK another one QQ and last guy AA they are doing it so many times that i can't even count just to get people to all in and get that sweet rake its obivous that its not Random and that it should be investigated by authorities but i guess stars pays them well

 

[David macdonald]

Of course there are bots on every single site i guess just on stars/888poker more then on partypoker lets say


But my problem with star is how are they making people go All-In for rakes its not rng at all.


When one guy gets KK another one QQ and last guy AA they are doing it so many times that i can't even count just to get people to all in and get that sweet rake its obivous that its not Random and that it should be investigated by authorities but i guess stars pays them well

Who knows I doubt there's any wrong doing by stars but let's just say there is, can you imagine the UK would see black Friday and online poker would be banned permanently.