OzExorcist
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I figured the outcome of this race was going to be bittersweet - either Alonso was going to win the championship for my beloved Scuderia, meaning Webber missed out, or vice versa. Instead neither happened and the result left me kinda meh...
There's no denying Vettel is fast, I guess that makes him a worthy champion. Massive shame that Webber missed out, roll on 2011 I guess.
Don't get me wrong, I agree - I don't think Mass has been the same since his accident last year and that's a real pity. My point was anyone saying he should leave Ferrari and go to another team hasn't really thought about where they think that would be. Personally, if Massa leaves Ferrari I kind of expect him to leave the sport as a whole just like Raikkonen before him.
As for Kubica going to Ferrari, as a Ferrari fan there's no denying it's an enticing prospect. Don't forget though that Renault are a team that's more than capable of winning both championships. They've done so in recent years and if they pick up next season where they left off in this one I don't know if Kubica would be all that much better off in a Ferrari than he would be in a Renault, especially since he'd almost certainly have to play second fiddle to Alonso at Ferrari.
There's no denying Vettel is fast, I guess that makes him a worthy champion. Massive shame that Webber missed out, roll on 2011 I guess.
AtiFCOD said:
Don't get me wrong, I agree - I don't think Mass has been the same since his accident last year and that's a real pity. My point was anyone saying he should leave Ferrari and go to another team hasn't really thought about where they think that would be. Personally, if Massa leaves Ferrari I kind of expect him to leave the sport as a whole just like Raikkonen before him.
As for Kubica going to Ferrari, as a Ferrari fan there's no denying it's an enticing prospect. Don't forget though that Renault are a team that's more than capable of winning both championships. They've done so in recent years and if they pick up next season where they left off in this one I don't know if Kubica would be all that much better off in a Ferrari than he would be in a Renault, especially since he'd almost certainly have to play second fiddle to Alonso at Ferrari.
AtiFCOD
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This race was very weird.
Shumi's accident...he did a rookie mistake.
Renault's good tactic, Ferrari's bad tactic. Alonso/Hamilton couldn't overtake Renaults...
I'm very disappointed, I didn't expect such race. I hope not Ecclestone is behind it.
Vettel did a good job btw, congrat.
Shumi's accident...he did a rookie mistake.
Renault's good tactic, Ferrari's bad tactic. Alonso/Hamilton couldn't overtake Renaults...
I'm very disappointed, I didn't expect such race. I hope not Ecclestone is behind it.
Vettel did a good job btw, congrat.
crancko
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Off course he was crying. Now being the reigning champ, it dawned on him what impact of a full years worth of: http://www.topspeed.com/cars/auto-shows/car-babes-gallery/formula-1-girls-ar10450/pictures.html will have...
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
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My conspiracy theory: Red Bull pitted Webber when they did in the hope that Alonso would respond and get stuck down the field, maximising Vettel's chances to win the championship.
Of course, that theory relies on Ferrari being capable of doing something fairly stupid with little thought to the consequences but since that's basically what they did... go figure.
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ChuckyEgg
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Great ending to the season, even though I wanted Mark Webber to win, I am glad it was Vettel and not Alonso.
The Renault boys, especially Pertrov, did well to keep Alonso at bay. They were expecting him to pit (Petrov), but he never did, lol. I bet Alonso would have loved to have gotten his hand around Petrov's neck at the end. Throughout that 2nd half I was feeling sorry for Webber, all the luck left him and was sitting on Vettel's shoulder for that race. But thank the heavens for Petrov, every time the cameras went to the Petrov / Alonso battle, I was laughing inside so much I nearly died. Especially about 5 laps from the end, when even Alonso new he had had it. ROFL
I bet Red Bull are glad they did not use team orders to ensure Webber got the most points in the previous race.
They reckon that with the new cars for next season, Webber will not be in a position to win. Something to do with his size ? Anyone here anything about that ?
Now to endure 14 or so weeks of no F1
I'm intrigued to see if there will be any changes in the top teams' drivers, but my prediction is that they will stay the same.
Bring on 2011
The Renault boys, especially Pertrov, did well to keep Alonso at bay. They were expecting him to pit (Petrov), but he never did, lol. I bet Alonso would have loved to have gotten his hand around Petrov's neck at the end. Throughout that 2nd half I was feeling sorry for Webber, all the luck left him and was sitting on Vettel's shoulder for that race. But thank the heavens for Petrov, every time the cameras went to the Petrov / Alonso battle, I was laughing inside so much I nearly died. Especially about 5 laps from the end, when even Alonso new he had had it. ROFL
I bet Red Bull are glad they did not use team orders to ensure Webber got the most points in the previous race.
They reckon that with the new cars for next season, Webber will not be in a position to win. Something to do with his size ? Anyone here anything about that ?
Now to endure 14 or so weeks of no F1
I'm intrigued to see if there will be any changes in the top teams' drivers, but my prediction is that they will stay the same.
Bring on 2011
Pothole
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Now to endure 14 or so weeks of no F1
I'm intrigued to see if there will be any changes in the top teams' drivers, but my prediction is that they will stay the same.
Bring on 2011
The class of F1 2011 is as follows:
Red Bull-Renault
- Sebastian Vettel
- Mark Webber
McLaren-Mercedes
- Lewis Hamilton
- Jenson Button
Ferrari
- Fernando Alonso
- Felipe Massa
Mercedes GP
- Michael Schumacher
- Nico Rosberg
Renault
- Robert Kubica
Vitaly Petrov?
Adrian Sutil?
Timo Glock?
Nico Hülkenberg?
Nick Heidfeld?
Williams-Cosworth
- Rubens Barrichello
Pastor Maldonado?
Force India-Mercedes
Adrian Sutil?
Vitantonio Liuzzi?
Paul di Resta?
Karun Chandhok?
Nick Heidfeld?
Sauber-Ferrari
- Kamui Kobayashi
- Sergio Pérez
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
- Jaime Alguersuari
- Sébastien Buemi
Lotus-Renault
Heikki Kovalainen?
Jarno Trulli?
Bruno Senna?
Giedo van der Garde?
Hispania-Cosworth
Christian Klien?
Bruno Senna?
Pedro de la Rosa?
Nico Hülkenberg?
Virgin-Cosworth
Timo Glock?
Giedo van der Garde?
Jérôme d'Ambrosio?
Lucas di Grassi?
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OzExorcist
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Seems the FIA clearly read this thread and agreed with me: the sport's dumbest rule (the ban on team orders) is gone for next season.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/12/11596.html
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2010/12/11596.html
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ChuckyEgg
Rock Star
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oo, that could be interesting.
It does make sense to use it towards the end of the season. Although, it could have scuppered RBR and Vettel's Driver's championship win in 2010, if RBR had favoured Webber.
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
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Team orders could also have won it for Webber though - for pretty much the whole season he was their best bet for the driver's championship.
beardyian
Scary Clown
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Robert Kubica crashes in an off season Rally>>>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...le-go-rallying-before-Formula-One-season.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...le-go-rallying-before-Formula-One-season.html
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ChuckyEgg
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AtiFCOD
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Very unlucky crash. It came at the worst time for Kubica. Heifeld will substitute him.
When will be the first GP this year?
Egon Towst
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Not as annoyed as he is, I reckon.
It`s supposed to be Bahrain in 3 weeks` time, but that is quite likely to be cancelled because of civil unrest there.
AtiFCOD
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Loyaler
Bad news. :-/
Maybe they should organize that race at another place. I want to watch F1 GP in March.
OzExorcist
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Maybe they should organize that race at another place. I want to watch F1 GP in March.
You can - the Australian GP is March 25-27
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ChuckyEgg
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How about this for an idea... countries can only hold major sporting events if their own people aren't regularly found in boats or lorries or some other means of transport, trying to escape their old life
For the pedantic out there, I am referring the illegal transportation, obviously.
For the pedantic out there, I am referring the illegal transportation, obviously.
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ChuckyEgg
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How about this for an idea... countries can only hold major sporting events if their own people aren't regularly found in boats or lorries or some other means of transport, trying to escape their old life
For the pedantic out there, I am referring the illegal transportation, obviously.
F1 is a major sporting event split over the year, even though many may argue against that..... many nationalities and countries involved.... worth hundreds of millions, if not billions per year.
AtiFCOD
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ChuckyEgg
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Cool. I'll watch it.
Alonsoooooooooooo.
Kubi.... damn!
Okay, I'll go for Barrichello.... oi, who's laughing!?
But I won't be disappointed if Webber or one of the McLaren boys win