$2 NL HE 6-max: Gto said perfect play but it was a easy fold.

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PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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waser17 (UTG): $1.90 (95 bb)
ratbat615 (MP): $1.34 (67 bb)
Slowy45 (CO): $1.70 (85 bb)

BangkokDennis (BU): $2.02 (101 bb)
z1ngle (SB): $3.21 (161 bb)
geefreitas (BB): $2.24 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (ratbat615) is MP with Q J
1 fold, ratbat615 (MP) raises to $0.04, Slowy45 (CO) 3-bets to $0.10, 3 players fold, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.06

Flop:
($0.23) 2 Q 8 (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $0.12, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.12

Turn:
($0.47) 3 (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $0.30, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.30

River:
($1.07) T (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $1.18 (all-in), ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.82 (all-in)

Total pot:
$2.71 (Rake: $0.14)

Showdown:
Slowy45 (CO) shows K K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 83%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%)

ratbat615 (MP) shows Q J (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 17%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%)

Slowy45 (CO) wins $2.57


Pre; We are playing 1cents 2cents I have about 65bb to start I originally started with 80bb , so I pick up QJoc in MP. 6 handed table so I raise to 4 cents the co 3bets to 10 cents I was playing with the villain for a while and I called a bluff about 3 hands earlier so I know how loose the villain was so i just called.

Flop; Q 8 2 rainbow I have top pair I just checked I wanted to see what the villain would do , I was thinking that I would try to slow play my top pair because of the villains past behaver anyway the villain bets 12cents and I just call thinking I am trapping .

Turn; 3oh this is a brick to me so I just checked this is were the red flags start going off the villain bets 30cents the villain has not slowed down in fact the bet size is still increasing, at this point I knew I was beat but maybe I can hit a J or a Q on the river . But guys this is very important I knew I was beat so if I don't improve I should fold .

River; 10os brick J9 gets there but I block that but I have to think about sets 10s,88s,22s,33s plus AAs and KKs but these are the only hands that beat me , anyway I don't improve so I check but the villain moves all in , If I folded I would have had 82cents left that was a mistake to call of my chips with just 1 pair.

Summery : The villain bet all 4 streets I should have never call off my chips with top pair, the villain never slowed down big red flag. What's you guys thoughts?

Ps. GTO wizard said I played it perfect.

Gtoplay
 
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I would probably get off the train on the river, if not at the turn. At 2NL players are mostly telegraphing their hand strengths except for maybe a few maniacs or pros splashing around. They do not need a draw here, 3 betting after MP raise with three players left to act is pretty bold, signifying a very strong range. But I am far from an optimal cash player, so maybe I am wrong.
 
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I have no experience with this Program but maybe the fact u play with a broken stack is the reason it agrees on stacking off for a total of 67 Bb. Me personally i think u can only fold this hand on the river, maybe rarely on the turn against an extremely tight player.

Stacked off many times in that spot too and from personal experience u are not good there mostly after all those raises and bets and then the slight overbet on the river by ur opponent.
 
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The way that hand played out that is an easy fold on the river. You left out AQ and KQ and QQ as hands that beat you, and are reasonably expected pre-flop three bets.
 
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ratbat615 said:
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

waser17 (UTG): $1.90 (95 bb)
ratbat615 (MP): $1.34 (67 bb)
Slowy45 (CO): $1.70 (85 bb)

BangkokDennis (BU): $2.02 (101 bb)
z1ngle (SB): $3.21 (161 bb)
geefreitas (BB): $2.24 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (ratbat615) is MP with Q J
1 fold, ratbat615 (MP) raises to $0.04, Slowy45 (CO) 3-bets to $0.10, 3 players fold, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.06

Flop:
($0.23) 2 Q 8 (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $0.12, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.12

Turn:
($0.47) 3 (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $0.30, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.30

River:
($1.07) T (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $1.18 (all-in), ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.82 (all-in)

Total pot:
$2.71 (Rake: $0.14)

Showdown:
Slowy45 (CO) shows K K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 83%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%)

ratbat615 (MP) shows Q J (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 17%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%)

Slowy45 (CO) wins $2.57


Pre; We are playing 1cents 2cents I have about 65bb to start I originally started with 80bb , so I pick up QJoc in MP. 6 handed table so I raise to 4 cents the co 3bets to 10 cents I was playing with the villain for a while and I called a bluff about 3 hands earlier so I know how loose the villain was so i just called.

Flop; Q 8 2 rainbow I have top pair I just checked I wanted to see what the villain would do , I was thinking that I would try to slow play my top pair because of the villains past behaver anyway the villain bets 12cents and I just call thinking I am trapping .

Turn; 3oh this is a brick to me so I just checked this is were the red flags start going off the villain bets 30cents the villain has not slowed down in fact the bet size is still increasing, at this point I knew I was beat but maybe I can hit a J or a Q on the river . But guys this is very important I knew I was beat so if I don't improve I should fold .

River; 10os brick J9 gets there but I block that but I have to think about sets 10s,88s,22s,33s plus AAs and KKs but these are the only hands that beat me , anyway I don't improve so I check but the villain moves all in , If I folded I would have had 82cents left that was a mistake to call of my chips with just 1 pair.

Summery : The villain bet all 4 streets I should have never call off my chips with top pair, the villain never slowed down big red flag. What's you guys thoughts?

Ps. GTO wizard said I played it perfect.

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You explain one side of the equation very well-value hands they could have. It may help you to better refine your actions by thinking about what bluffs make sense beyond they could be bluffing anything. How many bluff combos make sense played this exact way. Then compare the # of bluff combos to value and if it is low fold. Yes the V can be crazy bluffing, but we can still fold in a spot like this.
If you take the time to build the bluff range and think it is big enough to call here, then you played fine they just hit top of range. It is no big mistake to call top pair vs a known weak bluffer, but you may be right in thinking they do not bluff like this.

GTO WIZARD said it was fine based on a balanced range your villains are very far from balanced and often indicate unbalanced ranges with 3 streets of aggression that look like value bets.

:unsure::geek:
 
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