$2 NL HE 6-max: Gto said perfect play but it was a easy fold.

ratbat615 · Jul 5, 2026

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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waser17 (UTG): $1.90 (95 bb)
ratbat615 (MP): $1.34 (67 bb)
Slowy45 (CO): $1.70 (85 bb)
BangkokDennis (BU): $2.02 (101 bb)
z1ngle (SB): $3.21 (161 bb)
geefreitas (BB): $2.24 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (ratbat615) is MP with Q♣ J♣
1 fold, ratbat615 (MP) raises to $0.04, Slowy45 (CO) 3-bets to $0.10, 3 players fold, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.23) 2♥ Q♦ 8♣ (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $0.12, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.47) 3♥ (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $0.30, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.30

River: ($1.07) T♠ (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $1.18 (all-in), ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.82 (all-in)

Total pot: $2.71 (Rake: $0.14)

Showdown:
Slowy45 (CO) shows K♥ K♣ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 83%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%)

ratbat615 (MP) shows Q♣ J♣ (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 17%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%)

Slowy45 (CO) wins $2.57

Pre; We are playing 1cents 2cents I have about 65bb to start I originally started with 80bb , so I pick up QJoc in MP. 6 handed table so I raise to 4 cents the co 3bets to 10 cents I was playing with the villain for a while and I called a bluff about 3 hands earlier so I know how loose the villain was so i just called.

Flop; Q 8 2 rainbow I have top pair I just checked I wanted to see what the villain would do , I was thinking that I would try to slow play my top pair because of the villains past behaver anyway the villain bets 12cents and I just call thinking I am trapping .

Turn; 3oh this is a brick to me so I just checked this is were the red flags start going off the villain bets 30cents the villain has not slowed down in fact the bet size is still increasing, at this point I knew I was beat but maybe I can hit a J or a Q on the river . But guys this is very important I knew I was beat so if I don't improve I should fold .

River; 10os brick J9 gets there but I block that but I have to think about sets 10s,88s,22s,33s plus AAs and KKs but these are the only hands that beat me , anyway I don't improve so I check but the villain moves all in , If I folded I would have had 82cents left that was a mistake to call of my chips with just 1 pair.

Summery : The villain bet all 4 streets I should have never call off my chips with top pair, the villain never slowed down big red flag. What's you guys thoughts?

Ps. GTO wizard said I played it perfect.

puzzlefish · Jul 5, 2026

I would probably get off the train on the river, if not at the turn. At 2NL players are mostly telegraphing their hand strengths except for maybe a few maniacs or pros splashing around. They do not need a draw here, 3 betting after MP raise with three players left to act is pretty bold, signifying a very strong range. But I am far from an optimal cash player, so maybe I am wrong.

Sunz of Beaches · Jul 5, 2026

I have no experience with this Program but maybe the fact u play with a broken stack is the reason it agrees on stacking off for a total of 67 Bb. Me personally i think u can only fold this hand on the river, maybe rarely on the turn against an extremely tight player.

Stacked off many times in that spot too and from personal experience u are not good there mostly after all those raises and bets and then the slight overbet on the river by ur opponent.

elflake · Jul 5, 2026

The way that hand played out that is an easy fold on the river. You left out AQ and KQ and QQ as hands that beat you, and are reasonably expected pre-flop three bets.

eetenor · Jul 5, 2026

ratbat615 said:
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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waser17 (UTG): $1.90 (95 bb)
ratbat615 (MP): $1.34 (67 bb)
Slowy45 (CO): $1.70 (85 bb)
BangkokDennis (BU): $2.02 (101 bb)
z1ngle (SB): $3.21 (161 bb)
geefreitas (BB): $2.24 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero (ratbat615) is MP with Q♣ J♣
1 fold, ratbat615 (MP) raises to $0.04, Slowy45 (CO) 3-bets to $0.10, 3 players fold, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.23) 2♥ Q♦ 8♣ (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $0.12, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.47) 3♥ (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $0.30, ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.30

River: ($1.07) T♠ (2 players)
ratbat615 (MP) checks, Slowy45 (CO) bets $1.18 (all-in), ratbat615 (MP) calls $0.82 (all-in)

Total pot: $2.71 (Rake: $0.14)

Showdown:
Slowy45 (CO) shows K♥ K♣ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 83%, Flop: 76%, Turn: 89%, River: 100%)

ratbat615 (MP) shows Q♣ J♣ (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 17%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 11%, River: 0%)

Slowy45 (CO) wins $2.57

Pre; We are playing 1cents 2cents I have about 65bb to start I originally started with 80bb , so I pick up QJoc in MP. 6 handed table so I raise to 4 cents the co 3bets to 10 cents I was playing with the villain for a while and I called a bluff about 3 hands earlier so I know how loose the villain was so i just called.

Flop; Q 8 2 rainbow I have top pair I just checked I wanted to see what the villain would do , I was thinking that I would try to slow play my top pair because of the villains past behaver anyway the villain bets 12cents and I just call thinking I am trapping .

Turn; 3oh this is a brick to me so I just checked this is were the red flags start going off the villain bets 30cents the villain has not slowed down in fact the bet size is still increasing, at this point I knew I was beat but maybe I can hit a J or a Q on the river . But guys this is very important I knew I was beat so if I don't improve I should fold .

River; 10os brick J9 gets there but I block that but I have to think about sets 10s,88s,22s,33s plus AAs and KKs but these are the only hands that beat me , anyway I don't improve so I check but the villain moves all in , If I folded I would have had 82cents left that was a mistake to call of my chips with just 1 pair.

Summery : The villain bet all 4 streets I should have never call off my chips with top pair, the villain never slowed down big red flag. What's you guys thoughts?

Ps. GTO wizard said I played it perfect.

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You explain one side of the equation very well-value hands they could have. It may help you to better refine your actions by thinking about what bluffs make sense beyond they could be bluffing anything. How many bluff combos make sense played this exact way. Then compare the # of bluff combos to value and if it is low fold. Yes the V can be crazy bluffing, but we can still fold in a spot like this.
If you take the time to build the bluff range and think it is big enough to call here, then you played fine they just hit top of range. It is no big mistake to call top pair vs a known weak bluffer, but you may be right in thinking they do not bluff like this.

GTO WIZARD said it was fine based on a balanced range your villains are very far from balanced and often indicate unbalanced ranges with 3 streets of aggression that look like value bets.

fundiver199 · Jul 7, 2026

Preflop
If you are trying to become a winning cash game player, you should enable auto top-up, so that you always start the hand with at least 100BB. I would also open larger than just a min-raise. In the micros people still call to much, so you want to open larger than GTO and certainly not smaller. Facing a small 3-bet you have to call.

Flop
You obviously can not fold top pair to a single C-bet. You beat 99-JJ, AK and bluffs.

Turn
Now you only beat bluffs. You do however have 5 outs to suck out of AA or KK, so against the vast majority of players I would call again. But I am kind of hoping, that I either improve, or they shut it down on the river.

River
The solver like calling here, because it assume, your opponent has a perfect mix of valuebets and bluffs, and you block some of the value (QQ and AQ), while you unblock all the bluffs including AK. However against the population in microstakes games its a pretty solid exploit to fold here, since they will be heavily skewed towards value, when they take this kind of line. With hindsigth maybe we can even say, that the small 3-bet scream "please give me action", which usually means KK or AA.

ratbat615 · Jul 8, 2026

fundiver199 said:
Preflop
If you are trying to become a winning cash game player, you should enable auto top-up, so that you always start the hand with at least 100BB. I would also open larger than just a min-raise. In the micros people still call to much, so you want to open larger than GTO and certainly not smaller. Facing a small 3-bet you have to call.

Flop
You obviously can not fold top pair to a single C-bet. You beat 99-JJ, AK and bluffs.

Turn
Now you only beat bluffs. You do however have 5 outs to suck out of AA or KK, so against the vast majority of players I would call again. But I am kind of hoping, that I either improve, or they shut it down on the river.

River
The solver like calling here, because it assume, your opponent has a perfect mix of valuebets and bluffs, and you block some of the value (QQ and AQ), while you unblock all the bluffs including AK. However against the population in microstakes games its a pretty solid exploit to fold here, since they will be heavily skewed towards value, when they take this kind of line. With hindsigth maybe we can even say, that the small 3-bet scream "please give me action", which usually means KK or AA.

thank you. this is very helpful .

ratbat615 · Jul 8, 2026

elflake said:
The way that hand played out that is an easy fold on the river. You left out AQ and KQ and QQ as hands that beat you, and are reasonably expected pre-flop three bets.

true but I am blocking them.

elflake · Jul 8, 2026

You do know that there are two other Qs in the deck, right ?

fundiver199 · Jul 9, 2026

elflake said:
You do know that there are two other Qs in the deck, right ?

This is true, but blockers still matter against a balanced opponent, because if some of his value combos are blocked, then he will have a higher frequenzy of bluffs, and this makes it profitable to bluffcatch. This is why, the solver fold JJ on the river but call with QJs. Since the worst hand, that bet for value, is AQ, neither of these hands beat any value, but QJs will win more often due to the fact, it blocks AQ, QQ and QTs.

As already discussed, its up for debate, if the average 2NL player is bluffing as often, as they are supposed to, and my answer to that is no. So its fine to fold here. But at the same time we should also at least know, that if we move up and play against good players, then this is actually a situation, where we need to call them down to catch some bluffs. And then we will obviously lose to a hand like KK, when they happen to be betting for value.

TeUnit · Jul 9, 2026

The real question is why would you be trying to play GTO at 1c -2c?

You want to be playing exploitive poker when the players have leaks, pretty sure you can find lots of leaks to exploit at this level.

fundiver199 · Jul 9, 2026

TeUnit said:
The real question is why would you be trying to play GTO at 1c -2c?

You want to be playing exploitive poker when the players have leaks, pretty sure you can find lots of leaks to exploit at this level.

True but then you need to have an idea, what those leaks are. It cant just be "I am playing 2NL, so I dont need to play GTO". It needs to be "I know, this is a call in GTO, but I think, the population / this particular opponent is underbluffing in this spot, so I fold".

ratbat615 · Jul 9, 2026

TeUnit said:
The real question is why would you be trying to play GTO at 1c -2c?

You want to be playing exploitive poker when the players have leaks, pretty sure you can find lots of leaks to exploit at this level.

I use GTO wizard to study .

elflake · Jul 9, 2026

This idea of blocking : if you have a Q in you hand it reduces the chance the other player has a Q by 25% ; after the Q hits the board it reduces their chance by 50%. We also have to apply Bayesian theoretical statistics, with the basic supposition that the three-bet and four-bet make it more likely a player has a Q.

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