$2 NLHE Full Ring: Was the steal attempt ok?

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Full Tilt - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
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MP+1: $2.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 3)
MP+2: $0.90 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (CO): $2.18
BTN: $0.92 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: $1.98 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: $2.64 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: $3.91 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG+1: $2.39 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
MP: $0.57 (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 3:spade: K:spade:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.19, 3 players) A:spade: 8:heart: Q:diamond:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.10, fold, BB raises to $0.26, fold

BB wins $0.37

If you think I played this wrong in anyway, let me know, thanks 🙂
 
You 1st attempt to "steal" (or i don't know what) without position, Hero raises to $0.06 - it was small raise. Because the most you are attacking BB, who only has to pay 0.04, and when he do that, he already has mental domination over you, plus if you don't hit flop as you didn't, i would stay quite, check and try to confuse him. Instead his raise easy breaks you.
And if you think about you Flop raise as a steal, it isn't from my opinion
 
CO is a stealing position, so why am I without position?

I raise 3x the BB if there is no limper in front of me.

I do agree that the Cbet was ugly and I should of just checked there.
 
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You are maybe in position, but it is less adequate because on BB is "chip" leader. I'm not theory player, so for my opinion 3x BB is usual raise, when player wanna be called, so that is not stealing, 5-6x BB in my book, is representing huge hand (or bluffing about it); I would sure defend my BB with 3x with long range of hands, especially in micro blinds, and 3x bb. Im wrong maybe, i just give you my thinkings 🙂
 
That's a hand to play from the BTN as a steal-attempt, not the CO. Fold preflop.

As played: flop is good, and so is a check/fold.


Edit: @ dobatibata: a 3BB open-raise is very standard.
5-6x open-raise is what you do in a live game, or with QQ+/AK vs fish, not vs relative unknowns.

Also: defending your BB with a wide range vs a late steal is going to lose you a lot of money - you're always going to be out of position then. Can't make a lot of money that way. Fold your blinds more often. Especially at the microstakes.
 
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I just think 5x+ is a bit too high.

I don't want vil to think I am just stealing here, and I like to keep my bets the same no matter what position.

Now as button is a capper, I think the 3x was correct... Maybe I am wrong... wait and see what other people think.

Thanks for your input 🙂
 
TimovieMan said:
That's a hand to play from the BTN as a steal-attempt, not the CO. Fold preflop.

As played: flop is good, and so is a check/fold.


Edit: @ dobatibata: a 3BB open-raise is very standard.
5-6x open-raise is what you do in a live game, or with QQ+/AK vs fish, not vs relative unknowns.

Also: defending your BB with a wide range vs a late steal is going to lose you a lot of money - you're always going to be out of position then. Can't make a lot of money that way. Fold your blinds more often. Especially at the microstakes.
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Thanks 🙂

Noted that K3s not good in the CO.
 
I disagree TimovieMan. K3s is fine to open from the cutoff for me. 3x is perfectly fine too. The hand is very often going to go one of a couple ways -

1. You steal the blinds
2. You have position on the BB defender, you Cbet, he folds.

Sure it can go many other ways, but it'll go 1. and 2. often enough that this is profitable. Your Cbet is also fine for me. You can get him to fold hands like 22, 33. You could check back if your opponents' defending range is rather tight and contains a lot of Ax, Qx, but I think the Cbet on this board is fine.

Well-played this is standard for me.
 
I do like your play.

At least were trying to represent it and attempting one time but he answers back.

Its actually a standard play., doing that cbet move.
 
Unopened pot it is fine to raise 3x. If you start increasing your PFR size when you're stealing, any conscious player would spot that. I'd personally only be stealing with this hand from the button, not because it's a bad hand to steal with, but because you have no read on the blinds. If I had a read, I'd feel more comfortable post flop knowing what kind of player they are. Im usually more cautious with steals until I've seen how the players to my left play.
 
Jreece18 said:
Unopened pot it is fine to raise 3x. If you start increasing your PFR size when you're stealing, any conscious player would spot that. I'd personally only be stealing with this hand from the button, not because it's a bad hand to steal with, but because you have no read on the blinds. If I had a read, I'd feel more comfortable post flop knowing what kind of player they are. Im usually more cautious with steals until I've seen how the players to my left play.
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Thanks 🙂

Good advice 🙂
 
Too loose of an open. Especially with no reads on blinds and a fish on the button. I cant see this being profitable. Also its 2nl so people will call lighter in general so we dont really have the fold equity we need. Bottom of range should be like K7s here.
 
If you're stealing loose then you want to have a BTN that folds a lot, not calls a lot. You also ideally want blind players that are folding a lot, or fishy opponents. This seems a little too loose based on the BTN who is 50/0 (and only 3 hands). So you don't know at this point if he's a station or not, but apparently he is.
 
IPlay said:
Too loose of an open. Especially with no reads on blinds and a fish on the button. I cant see this being profitable. Also its 2nl so people will call lighter in general so we dont really have the fold equity we need. Bottom of range should be like K7s here.
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Thanks for the advice 🙂
 
John A said:
If you're stealing loose then you want to have a BTN that folds a lot, not calls a lot. You also ideally want blind players that are folding a lot, or fishy opponents. This seems a little too loose based on the BTN who is 50/0 (and only 3 hands). So you don't know at this point if he's a station or not, but apparently he is.
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Thanks, for the input 🙂
 
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