$25 NLHE Full Ring: Against a good reg & a SS recreational player

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UTG is 13/10 in 1.25K hands and I have seen him limp or min raise EP with premiums

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

MP3 ($25)
Hero (CO) ($25)
Button ($25)
SB ($8.40)
BB ($51.90)
UTG ($30.46)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($25.35)
MP2 ($26.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A
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, Q
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UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.25) 6
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, Q
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, 8
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(3 players)
SB bets $7.40 (All-In), UTG calls $7.40, Hero ???

SB I guess is a non entity and we should be ahead most of the time. If we call we are fully committed to the pot and with so much equity in the flop should we shove and realize the equity or be a chicken and fold considering the tendencies of the villain to limp with premium. or call and hope to hit the flush, which I guess will probably be obvious? I have an A and Q which reduced the possibility of AA or QQ.
 
Only question for me is how to get UTG to put another $16.60 into the pot.

If you shove then UTG has to call an additional $16.60 into a $42.05 pot, so 2.5-1 on his money. So you'd have to make a read as to whether UTG will like that price. If your read is he won't, can you induce a shove with a min-raise? IMHO you can't just call as you may lose UTG on a bunch of turn cards,
 
Folding is not an option versus a limp/caller, even with your read. I'd call, and look to get it in on the turn. You have position and one of the best flops for your hand.
 
Thanks for your inputs

John.. won't he fold all his over PP and sometimes even sets with a flush arriving?. Also not much small bets left for us to induce or am I given more credit to the villains

Jilly..I am reasonably sure he will call with premiums (AA-QQ, KK, AK), but if has some random hand he most likely will fold.
 
Given UTG's ability to limp premiums, I'd reckon he does this with small and middle pocket pairs on occasion as well?

Suppose we assign him a range of QQ+,88,66,AQ (he's not calling that flop shove with AK imo), then we're behind but almost flipping vs him. 40% if he doesn't have AQ in his limping range.

SB probably has some 66,88, weaker flush draws and Qx hands here. We're a big favourite vs him (and so is UTG).

We're obviously not folding here, but the issue is between calling now and shoving almost every turn, or shoving immediately.
With the dead money in the pot, I'm willing to take the risk and shove here, while our equity is highest. Shoving when the flush comes in could kill the action, and shoving on a blank turn isn't getting folds enough while our equity gets halved, imo.
Shove now, imo.
 
even if he has KK you have a lot of equity. Folding is reeeaaalllly bad here. like really bad. im shoving no need to get fancy
 
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