Micro FR Study Group

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just about to take another shot at 5nl whilst watching the arsenal game and playing 12 tables, i think i differ slightly from you two at the moment lol
 
Dont get me wrong ive had my best upswings with 12 tables, but theres no doubt that you can watch the tables better when ure playing half as many 🙂
Good luck with it anyways, dont know how you can watch tv whilst 12 tabling for one thing haha, tell us how it goes on here hopefully upwards (Y)
 
ya i used to play 16tables stacked but found that i was just playing like a robot lol especially at the lowest of all stakes i just want to focus on working on my game more
 
Yeah me too mate, wanna get rid of some leaks/learn more before i take another shot at 10NL although im getting a bit bored of being at 5nl for so long so i might take a few shots soon

Maybe ill try just strictly 4-6 tabling 10NL cause i always end up opening more than 6 at 5nl
 
might drop down to 6 tables lol, -2BI, KK<AA though so thats half of it, just cant run good!

I dont know if i'll just get waaaaay bored with 6 tables of FR though.

Might give it a shot 6 tabling with the TV off and see how i go 🙂
 
FFS, just looking through my hands for my 2 5nl shots, ive had AA 8 times, won a total of $1.67 , 3 times ive taken it down pre with a 4xbb raise, the other 5 times villain folds to my flop cbet
 
this is over 2k hands at 5nl, where i'm down $28, sucks to be me whilst moving up!
 
just getting unlucky mate keep at it and yeah try 6 tables, cant do any harm hopefully you'll spot some exploitable fishies
 
Should be atleast 6 now? Welcome Pokerfornia btw.

Right my bank rolls good enough for a few buy-in shot at 10NL comfortably.... gonna take a few buyin shot right now, wish me luck im sick of being at 5NL.
 
orangepeeleo said:
this is over 2k hands at 5nl, where i'm down $28, sucks to be me whilst moving up!
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Yeah, that sounds bad. Today I had a HUDE downswing. I tried a shot at 5 NL again and ended up 2 1/2 BI down. Combined with a huge 4 BI downswing @ 2NL a couple days back, now I'm back to where I was a month ago... now that sucks too 😀
 
FFS, i know i said no beats but i made the thread 😛 and this is horrible to be happening whilst trying to move up.


Party Poker - $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
Party Poker Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $5.77
BB: $8.90
UTG: $10
MP: $5
MP+1: $5
MP+2: $9.35
LP: $9.16
CO: $9.37
BTN Hero: $5.19

Pre-flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN and dealt :ah: :kc:
MP calls $0.05, 4 folds, Hero raises $0.25, SB calls $0.23, BB folds, MP calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.80) :kh: :as: :9h: (4 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.65, SB calls $0.65, MP folds

Turn: ($2.10) :kh: :as: :9h: :4d: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.70, SB calls $1.70

River: ($5.50) :kh: :as: :9h: :4d: :4s: (3 players)
SB bets $3.17 (All-in), Hero calls $2.59

Final Pot: $11.26

Showdown:
BTN mucks his hand
Outcome: SB wins $0.58
BTN mucks his hand
Outcome: SB wins $9.97

EDIT: Not showing his hand for some reason but the lucky twat had 48h!!

Thing is i had dropped to 8 tables and made back all but $2 of the $12 i'd dropped tonight, then that hand happened and everyone went into god mode against me and hit anything they needed to win, ****ers lol
 
Thats ****ing horrific, but yeah lots of donks dont lay down flush draws to pot bets, its almost like you know he has you beat when he shoves all in, wtf was he doing playing 4 8 ?! id write his name down and follow him around every night just to ruin his life a bit.

on the other hand just to to make you feel even better (sorry) Ive just played 4-6 at 10NL and after 300 hands im up 19 dollars 🙂 Plus i got all in with a set of nines against a set of 8's and turn and river made us both straights but still i ran great and felt much more confident with 10NL this time round, last time i was playing scared for sure. COME ON PEELO stop getting unlucky already
 
Something I have been doing the last few weeks that might help you guys.

I normally 16 table stacked which doesn't leave me much time to take notes so a couple of nights a week I try to play 4-6 tables and I purposefully look to sit with meh regs (I color code anyone who I have more than 1K hand on as a meh reg unless I think they're good). This lets me get lots of notes on the guys who are usually going to be at my tables on regular nights when I'm not really note taking.
 
WVHillbilly said:
Something I have been doing the last few weeks that might help you guys.

I normally 16 table stacked which doesn't leave me much time to take notes so a couple of nights a week I try to play 4-6 tables and I purposefully look to sit with meh regs (I color code anyone who I have more than 1K hand on as a meh reg unless I think they're good). This lets me get lots of notes on the guys who are usually going to be at my tables on regular nights when I'm not really note taking.
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Thanks for popping in, ive never thought of purposely doing this but it makes sense if theyre going to be in your games all the time - is a "meh reg" just someone whose regularly at your tables but isn't necessarily a big winner? like the usual 16/10 types that dont seem to sleep
 
acky100 said:
Thanks for popping in, ive never thought of purposely doing this but it makes sense if theyre going to be in your games all the time - is a "meh reg" just someone whose regularly at your tables but isn't necessarily a big winner? like the usual 16/10 types that dont seem to sleep
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Yeah, they're maybe marginal winners (someone like me 🙂 ) or RB pro types. My player pool is slightly smaller at 100nl than yours at micro stakes but I usually have 1K+ hands on these guys (sometimes 20K+). So they're just the guys 16 tabling like me who I'm going to be seeing night after night.
 
WVHillbilly said:
Something I have been doing the last few weeks that might help you guys.

I normally 16 table stacked which doesn't leave me much time to take notes so a couple of nights a week I try to play 4-6 tables and I purposefully look to sit with meh regs (I color code anyone who I have more than 1K hand on as a meh reg unless I think they're good). This lets me get lots of notes on the guys who are usually going to be at my tables on regular nights when I'm not really note taking.
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Thats a good note taking strategy, im not the greatest at taking notes right now, purely b/c the player pool is so large, like if i'm trying to take a note on someone and ive got TN temp disabled with 12 tables beeping at me i just think, whats the point, ive got 30 hands on the guy and in all likelyhood will never see him again!
 
WVHillbilly said:
Yeah, they're maybe marginal winners (someone like me 🙂 ) or RB pro types. My player pool is slightly smaller at 100nl than yours at micro stakes but I usually have 1K+ hands on these guys (sometimes 20K+). So they're just the guys 16 tabling like me who I'm going to be seeing night after night.
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Does 16 tabling bring you a lot of profit? What are your stats? VPIP/PFR/etc.
 
So do you just play tight or do you ever make moves? I'm wondering because i've never really gotten too much into multitabling other than 4-6 tables.
 
I'm not sure what you mean? 15/12 isn't exactly loose but I'm not a nit by any means. Do you mean do I ever bluff? If so, yes.
 
I'm asking for like an example of moves you make when mass multitabling.

For example when I 4 table $5NL 6 max I will adapt a tight image and then 3bet with some random hands in position sometimes.
 
-Phil Ivey27 said:
I'm asking for like an example of moves you make when mass multitabling.

For example when I 4 table $5NL 6 max I will adapt a tight image and then 3bet with some random hands in position sometimes.
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Why are you doing that? Do most people at 5nl fold to 3bets or do they call? If they call do they often fold to a flop bet?

To answer your question, yes I will on occasion 3bet light both in and out of position but it's really important you have a reason to do so. Doing it just because you've been playing tight for a while so you think you can get by with it is not really a good reason.

As for moves I'm still not sure what you mean. I try to exploit my opponent's range based on what they think of mine (IF they think of mine).
 
WVHillbilly said:
Why are you doing that? Do most people at 5nl fold to 3bets or do they call? If they call do they often fold to a flop bet?

To answer your question, yes I will on occasion 3bet light both in and out of position but it's really important you have a reason to do so. Doing it just because you've been playing tight for a while so you think you can get by with it is not really a good reason.
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This really.

You may well end up 3bet bluffing in position, but from the description PI gave it dosent sound like there is much reasoning going on as to why he picks a particular spot to 3bet bluff
 
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