Good job on starting to multi table its definitely better to stop boredom and tilting as you say! i play on a laptop too without a mouse which really hurts my hand after a while 😡 ive never tried stacking though i usually just tile 6 and place another 6 on top of them, so i never really have a problem with watching my hands play out
_dogmeat said:
I stack 16 FR tables and I rarely see the result of a hand. I do pull up the last hand replayer when I want to see what someone was holding for information. Other than that my stack size tell me if I won the hand or not. So if I get AIPF with AK v QQ as long as I see the other persons cards before the table moves to my next action I generally don't ever go back and look at the result. Either I have the money when that table comes back around or he does.
My full ring, 2nl stats (from the past 3 months since I've been working really hard at changing my game since then); 10K sample:
My overall Preflop 3bet% = 4.42% and my WR in 3bet pots is about 78% (212BB/100).
My value* 3bets (JJ+/AK) win at 256 BB/100.
My light* 3bets (everything else) win at 136 BB/100.
My ratio of value to light 3bets is 77/44.
My overall Preflop 3bet% = 4.42% and my WR in 3bet pots is about 78% (212BB/100).
My value* 3bets (JJ+/AK) win at 256 BB/100.
My light* 3bets (everything else) win at 136 BB/100.
My ratio of value to light 3bets is 77/44.
I have been marking hands for some time, marking them when I know something wasnt quite right, I could have done better, I could have folded. I was probably bluffed.
I play 2nl settling at 6 tables for the moment. Just had a tasty run, $25 in 1000 hands. Was just reading pokerorifice talking about such winrates at this level. I must say it was rather unreal to continually win flips, flop sets and get callers, boom boom boom. Or maybe thats how its supposed to go. THe chart spike looks cute. Hopefully I can continue this..... I know I have heaps of problem hands. Would be keen on discussing AKo, AKs, AA, KK etc at this level and 5nl. Im in NZ so just about 12 hours apart which could work but emailed HEM hands and discussion should be good.
I play 2nl settling at 6 tables for the moment. Just had a tasty run, $25 in 1000 hands. Was just reading pokerorifice talking about such winrates at this level. I must say it was rather unreal to continually win flips, flop sets and get callers, boom boom boom. Or maybe thats how its supposed to go. THe chart spike looks cute. Hopefully I can continue this..... I know I have heaps of problem hands. Would be keen on discussing AKo, AKs, AA, KK etc at this level and 5nl. Im in NZ so just about 12 hours apart which could work but emailed HEM hands and discussion should be good.
WVHillbilly said:
Yeah, I figured the Last Hand Replayer too.
Last night was very hectic, though. I have never seen so many multi-way pots in 6-max in my entire poker life. Someone raise UTG to .10, everyone calls him, I pot it from the BB and everyone calls again, lol.
I really don't know what was going on, but there were donks everywhere. For 500 hands I raised maybe 10 times. It was just a freaking donk-fest.
WVHillbilly said:
So you're a solid TAG, positionally aware that plays fairly tight up front but a huge range from the CO & the button who 3bets mainly for value and will defend your BB against steals fairly aggressively.
Oh and you like to make fun of Nits.
Sounds about right. Unsure on the solid part. Honestly though I have gone through stages of playing 8 tables, 12 tables and now 16 tables. I have moved up in limits from 25nl to 100nl. My stats are essentially exactly the same throughout. I have tried to play looser and tighter but it never lasts very long. I always end up basically in the same spot.fx20736 said:
I know I am late to the table, but very interested. I got around to using my PT3 for actual self evaluation (imagine my surprise at some results lol). I was hoping that my 3-bet would be a big leak since I have not heard much other discussion yet on other reports (yet).
Fortunately for me (or unfortunately) I am in the green for both 2nl and 5nl 3-betting (removing AK+/JJ+). I do know that AK is BY FAR one of my biggest problems.
Anyways, I will be lurking around and hope to participate as much as possible. No family but do have a full time job. Anyways, just wanted to check in. Oh and my 3-bet is 9%. I am not sure what to take away from this seeing as I believe this is VERY loose.
Fortunately for me (or unfortunately) I am in the green for both 2nl and 5nl 3-betting (removing AK+/JJ+). I do know that AK is BY FAR one of my biggest problems.
Anyways, I will be lurking around and hope to participate as much as possible. No family but do have a full time job. Anyways, just wanted to check in. Oh and my 3-bet is 9%. I am not sure what to take away from this seeing as I believe this is VERY loose.
I mentioned it in the new topic of stealing blinds, but I would like to talk about table selection. I know that I would really love to hear what you guys think when choosing your tables. Not sure if it needs a new thread, but thought I would float the idea out there.
Dont think anyones gonna be too bothered if we start talking about it here, im always interested in making any part of my game better, so Table selection:
Im no expert at this so hopefully some better players than me can add advice -
Since moving to 10nl ive started taking a bit more time to choose tables, i filter by players % seeing flop and try to find the highest ones i can with a maximum waiting list of 3 (prefrably none obv - should i be joining the ones with 7 etc? i see a lot of tables with 18 or so waiting) As for pot size i just try and make sure its around 10bb's + . And the thing im doing which i didnt do at 5NL is whenever i get in a table, if theres two nits or tight players to my right i just leave, and if theres looser players to my right i stay, and when i get the choice of seats im always trying to get the loose guys to my right and the tight ones to my left. Hmm when do you leave tables? i tend to leave if the %seeing flop falls below 20 and i have better tables to join... or if theres no loose players sitting on the table.
Not had much luck at 10nl with sitting on a empty table, it worked quite well at 5NL but seems hit and miss at 10nl.
Theres my table selection, any improvements or ideas welcome
Im no expert at this so hopefully some better players than me can add advice -
Since moving to 10nl ive started taking a bit more time to choose tables, i filter by players % seeing flop and try to find the highest ones i can with a maximum waiting list of 3 (prefrably none obv - should i be joining the ones with 7 etc? i see a lot of tables with 18 or so waiting) As for pot size i just try and make sure its around 10bb's + . And the thing im doing which i didnt do at 5NL is whenever i get in a table, if theres two nits or tight players to my right i just leave, and if theres looser players to my right i stay, and when i get the choice of seats im always trying to get the loose guys to my right and the tight ones to my left. Hmm when do you leave tables? i tend to leave if the %seeing flop falls below 20 and i have better tables to join... or if theres no loose players sitting on the table.
Not had much luck at 10nl with sitting on a empty table, it worked quite well at 5NL but seems hit and miss at 10nl.
Theres my table selection, any improvements or ideas welcome
When table selecting I start with all the things you mention, big pots or lots of players seeing the flop but obv both is ideal. When I've played a couple rounds at a table you can usually tell if there's reasons to stay. Once I'm at a table I never look at the table VPIP any more because all the info I need is at the table and that makes my decisions. Before sitting I tend to avoid joining if there's a shorty to my right as even having position on a decent player with a full stack is more +EV but I'd leave that table too lol.
If there's a giant fish at the table I'm staying no matter where he is. Obv move around the table to get better positions when I can. If everyone's decent or even if there's like a 70/3 across the table from me I usually leave because we're not going to get tons of money off him as it will be difficult to isolate him too and there's always better tables to find at 2/5/10nl.
A paraphrased section from Veneers guide to uNL 2010. We should always have a reason for being at the table, we want a MASSIVE edge at the micros and there will always be decent tables to find if you look, don't settle for anything less.
The difference between mid-stakes players and micro to small-stakes players is the shark mentality that they're there to make as much money as possible, when a table is running at higher stakes it's for a reason and when those reasons aren't there any more a table will quickly break. Take that mentality to micro-stakes, look for a massive edge and take maney.
If there's a giant fish at the table I'm staying no matter where he is. Obv move around the table to get better positions when I can. If everyone's decent or even if there's like a 70/3 across the table from me I usually leave because we're not going to get tons of money off him as it will be difficult to isolate him too and there's always better tables to find at 2/5/10nl.
A paraphrased section from Veneers guide to uNL 2010. We should always have a reason for being at the table, we want a MASSIVE edge at the micros and there will always be decent tables to find if you look, don't settle for anything less.
The difference between mid-stakes players and micro to small-stakes players is the shark mentality that they're there to make as much money as possible, when a table is running at higher stakes it's for a reason and when those reasons aren't there any more a table will quickly break. Take that mentality to micro-stakes, look for a massive edge and take maney.
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LuckyChippy said:
Wow thanks for this in depth reply, ive never actually thought of that mentallity but it is so true, Ive never thought to ever leave a table because the loose passive is opposite me but this sounds like something i should look out for more, so basically always moving tables to find them as close to your right as possible and the tight ones on ure left is what we need to be doing. Im sure lots of us will settle for average too often, and this stops at my next session even if im playing 4 tables at once rather than 6-8
A common mistake I see when a lot when people post hhs for HA is sitting with several short stacked players. Even bad short stackers aren't worth that much and a couple shortys at a FR table kill it imo. Even 1 shorty on my right and I'm gone unless the guy to his right is a full stacked drooler.