MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[The Messiah]

Consid he doesnt have a range because you just sat down then you cant say it hits his range, were not 3bet/folding the flop, if you elect to 3 bet then you have to call off...
Against the nuts, you still have decent equity to boat up, also theres a decent chance you have him crushed and a slight chance you are, easy call as played...nh

 

[dsvw56]

Help here please! How does the betsizing look? Should I be 3-betting here or just calling the flop? Unfortunately no stats on the villain at the time bc I just sat down. I could provide his stats now if that would help? But isnt this board super coordinated with his range?

You have a set. There's about 10 billion draw combos, even if he flops a straight you still have good equity. Just get the money in the pot as quickly as possible. When he raises there, just ship it imo.

 

[dsvw56]

Also, this :

Cake Poker, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG: $1.53 (38.3 bb)
MP: $4.18 (104.5 bb)
CO: $3.94 (98.5 bb)
BTN: $1.67 (41.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.27 (256.8 bb)
BB: $9.08 (227 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

A

2 folds, CO raises to $0.12, BTN raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $0.96, BB raises to $3, CO raises to $3.94 and is all-in, BTN folds, Hero raises to $10.27 and is all-in, BB calls $6.08 and is all-in

Flop: ($22.58) 5

9

6

(3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($22.58) J

(3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($22.58) J

(3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results: $22.58 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 5

9

6

J

J

CO showed K

K

and lost (-$3.94 net)
Hero showed A

A

and won $21.08 ($12 net)
BB showed K

K

and lost (-$9.08 net)

 

[pocketehs]

Consid he doesnt have a range because you just sat down then you cant say it hits his range, were not 3bet/folding the flop, if you elect to 3 bet then you have to call off...
Against the nuts, you still have decent equity to boat up, also theres a decent chance you have him crushed and a slight chance you are, easy call as played...nh

Sorry Messiah I was just about to edit and say that Im definitely calling when I 3-bet the flop considering stack sizes. However, can we not just assume that the villain would be flatting a lot SCs on the button?

Also, what do you think of the betsizing here? I made it pretty large on the flop because its a wet flop however Im pretty inexperienced with 3-bet/4-bet sizing so I was wondering if that was okay as well

 

[Logan2]

Hand 1, bigger raise on the flop. Make it like .70-.80. Doing so allows you to get stacks in on the river. Also, why the tiny river bet? You're missing a TON of value if he doesn't stupidly shove a king there.

Beting small river we can induce if have the king, we can induce if miss the FD and try to bluff, and we also get call by lower PP and AT/A7/QT and other crappy hands that could hit in any way, probably induce too with JJ/QQ/AA. But if we shove probably gona fold all trashy hands/lower PP and can´t bluff, call us with K only and maybe JJ/QQ/AA, stupid thinking?

Agree on the beting more on flop.
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[dsvw56]

Beting small river we can induce if have the king, we can induce if miss the FD and try to bluff, and we also get call by lower PP and AT/A7/QT and other crappy hands that could hit in any way, probably induce too with JJ/QQ/AA. But if we shove probably gona fold all trashy hands/lower PP and can´t bluff, stupid thinking?

Agree on the beting more on flop.
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You get way more value with a normal sized bet.

 

[The Messiah]

Sorry Messiah I was just about to edit and say that Im definitely calling when I 3-bet the flop considering stack sizes. However, can we not just assume that the villain would be flatting a lot SCs on the button?

Also, what do you think of the betsizing here? I made it pretty large on the flop because its a wet flop however Im pretty inexperienced with 3-bet/4-bet sizing so I was wondering if that was okay as well

Assumptions are generally bad without any history tbh, esp as he prob is a fish.

Sizing is good, generally speaking just make your raises/3bets proportionally bigger to how draw heavy the board is, i.e dry board were you flop a set you can raise the flop a lot less and just value town his 'tp' on later streets, or what is commonly done flatting monsters on dry boards, best to vary doh...

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Beting small river we can induce if have the king, we can induce if miss the FD and try to bluff, and we also get call by lower PP and AT/A7/QT and other crappy hands that could hit in any way, probably induce too with JJ/QQ/AA. But if we shove probably gona fold all trashy hands/lower PP and can´t bluff, call us with K only and maybe JJ/QQ/AA, stupid thinking?

Agree on the beting more on flop.
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Not stupid thinking, but wishful for sure. The way to get paid at the micros is to bet-bet-bet. If he's gonna go ape-shit with a king he's gonna do it regardless of our bet sizing. His spew-bluff range on the river is basically non-existent here based on past action. (Villain leads out on the flop - just not consistent with air-ish hands.)

Not advocating shoving necessarily, but def more than 50% PSB.

 

[zveri666]

oh and even for 2nl chromestar new level should be reacheable, so no one should be bronze by end of january or gtfo.



Bronzestar - Default VIP level

Chromestar - 100 vpp's per month

Silverstar - 500 vpp's per month (Down from 750 vpp per month)

Goldstar - 2500 vpp's per month (Down from 3000 vpp per month)

Platinumstar - 7500 vpp's per month (No change)

ps tx to peeleo for posting the new changes.
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O this is awesome, right now im almoust at 500 vpp's for 2012 (only played for 2 months of this year) . Wish they implemented this change last year lol. O well..
This is good news though, next year my goal is to reach Goldstar.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Logon Hands:
Hand 1:
Raise more on flop like dsv said, he is a fish you're missing value by only min-raising. Turn is fine (although I would of bet $1.55). Definitely bet big on the river and hope he has a king or he will just call down with a pocket pair anyway. Betting small is missing a shit ton of value.

Hand 2:
Raise more on turn as he is getting amazing odds to call and if he just calls and a Jack comes on river you're going to hate your hand.


Don't give us stats now if you didn't have them then as we would be giving advice partly based on stat reads which you didn't have at the time therefore stats are irrelavent in this hand imo.
Pocketehs
Hand:
Pre-flop is fine as he only limps and you have pos, calling is also fine.
Postflop is fine, even if he does have the straight you still have lots of outs. He could have flush draw with overcards/combo draw/two pair/lower set.

O shiiit, didn't know this was old post lol, sorry I am lagging behind.

 

[Yoshimiii]

DSV Only 4bet 2x raise with A/A? I would of made it $1.5 personally like usual. Seen as how deep you are as well.

 

[dsvw56]

DSV Only 4bet 2x raise with A/A? I would of made it $1.5 personally like usual. Seen as how deep you are as well.

The only player I'm effectively deep with wasn't in the hand at that point and given that I'm cold 4-betting it was incredibly unlikely he was going to get involved so that's basically irrelevant. 4-bet size is standard.

 

[youregoodmate]

What is this table avg HUD, can it be done on PT4? Could really do with this when the tables really start drying up.

 

[pocketehs]

What is this table avg HUD, can it be done on PT4? Could really do with this when the tables really start drying up.

Cant figure it out either youregoodmate. Checked the PT forums as well. I think it has something to do with creating a new "group" then showing for "table averages: show on table."

Can someone take a screenshot of theirs so that I can work off of that, please?

 

[Logan2]

https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=17609#p83766

There

Still not sure why people is geting PT3/4 instead of Hem, is way more complicated for everything.



Yoshii how are you doing on 10nl so far.
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[honeycrush]

Still not sure why people still geting PT3/4 instead of Hem, is way more complicated for everything you wana do.​

+1

I started off with PT3 then trialled HEM2 & PT4 and found HEM2 so much better.

The only thing I preferred on PT was that you could see villain's winning hands at a glance in your stats table without having to click on the individual HH.

 

[pocketehs]

https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=17609#p83766

There

Still not sure why people is geting PT3/4 instead of Hem, is way more complicated for everything.
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I honestly have no idea how you found that but thanks bro.

I just got PT3 because HEM isnt available for Mac. I was just looking at HEM software though and would really like to have the ability to do reviews and look at stats on a smartphone. That would be so clutch if I could do this while Im on break at work or just killing time in between a class at school and dont have my computer on me.

 

[dsvw56]

Beting small river we can induce if have the king, we can induce if miss the FD and try to bluff, and we also get call by lower PP and AT/A7/QT and other crappy hands that could hit in any way, probably induce too with JJ/QQ/AA. But if we shove probably gona fold all trashy hands/lower PP and can´t bluff, call us with K only and maybe JJ/QQ/AA, stupid thinking?

Agree on the beting more on flop.
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Just wanted to go back to this for a second. As a general rule, it is a much smaller mistake to bet too much than to bet too small at the micros. It goes back to the old "double your bet size, double your winrate" saying which I forget who said it (belugawhale maybe?). Your money at the micros comes from people calling too much. When you put money in the pot, your average hand strength is higher than theirs. That is where your value comes from. There is a time and a place for fancy plays, but they rarely occur in the micros. Play a positional game, c-bet a lot on good flops, and bet like crazy for value. That's all you need to do to crush the micros.

 

[Logan2]

Just wanted to go back to this for a second. As a general rule, it is a much smaller mistake to bet too much than to bet too small at the micros. It goes back to the old "double your bet size, double your winrate" saying which I forget who said it (belugawhale maybe?). Your money at the micros comes from people calling too much. When you put money in the pot, your average hand strength is higher than theirs. That is where your value comes from. There is a time and a place for fancy plays, but they rarely occur in the micros. Play a positional game, c-bet a lot on good flops, and bet like crazy for value. That's all you need to do to crush the micros.

Thanks man, noted

I honestly have no idea how you found that but thanks bro.

You need to be a Jedi to do all kind of stuff, ask peels on that is my master.


Hand coming for thoughts

 

[Logan2]

Only 6 hands vs villain so we are blind here.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players -

MP1: $19.34
Hero (MP2): $10.00
CO: $8.35
BTN: $4.00
SB: $6.19
BB: $12.35
UTG: $10.59
UTG+1: $10.51

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with 7

7

2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 7

A

4

(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.35) 6

(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.90, Hero raises to $2, MP1 calls $1.10

River: ($6.35) 5

(2 players)
MP1 bets $1.30, Hero?


I think i play bad the the hand, should raise flop, Turn i think is ok but after he call not sure what to do on river, do i ever shove there or just call, min beting on river could be because he hit the flush or st8 and trying to induce or because he is afraid and only have the Ace, what we do?, board is too wet to shove because we only be call if we are beat no? or we could at least raise to like $3.xx and if come over fold.?
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[Matt Vaughan]

Raise/fold is a leak on this river imo.

Raise flop imo, he is never folding an ace that he raised pre. As played, on the turn raise bigger - that's basically a min-raise, and it was a small bet to begin with. I raise to at least $2.80 there.

tbh the river is just gross. With no reads, I probably just flat here. Player dependent you could SOMEtimes shove, but without more info I sigh-flat. We just don't know what this player would do with A8 or Axdd in this spot, and they are def in his range. The river COULD be a blocking-type bet (it looks like one imo) but it could also be a "please call me" bet.

I sound like a broken record, but basically just call, take a note of his hole cards at showdown, crush him next time.

 

[dsvw56]

What was your thought process behind not raising the flop?

 

[Logan2]

What was your thought process behind not raising the flop?

I have no excuse at all, i should be raising that flop 100% of the time.

tbh the river is just gross. With no reads, I probably just flat here. Player dependent you could SOMEtimes shove, but without more info I sigh-flat. We just don't know what this player would do with A8 or Axdd in this spot, and they are def in his range. The river COULD be a blocking-type bet (it looks like one imo) but it could also be a "please call me" bet.

I sound like a broken record,but basically just call, take a note of his hole cards at showdown, crush him next time.

At the end i flat.

You guys try to guess what he have before read the spoiler.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players -

MP1: $19.34
Hero (MP2): $10.00
CO: $8.35
BTN: $4.00
SB: $6.19
BB: $12.35
UTG: $10.59
UTG+1: $10.51

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with 7

7

2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 7

A

4

(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.35) 6

(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.90, Hero raises to $2, MP1 calls $1.10

River: ($6.35) 5

(2 players)
MP1 bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

Final Pot: $8.95

Spoiler

MP1 shows 7

K

(a pair of Sevens)
Hero shows 7

7

(three of a kind, Sevens)
Hero wins $8.55
(Rake: $0.40)

No Ace, no PP not FD or SD lol i´m so dumb, pretty much he stay on the hand because i no raise the flop and raise crap on turn.

 

[pocketehs]

You guys try to guess what he have before read the spoiler.

.....label green instantly as a fish lol

 

[AlfieAA]

i wouldnt have raised the flop either, dont want to scare teh fish especially IP